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32-bit UPup Cosmic Cuttlefish (UPupCC) 18.10 (Oct 2018)
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watchdog

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PostPosted: Sat 20 Oct 2018, 14:00    Post subject:  

I tried to compile adbfs-rootless and it fails claiming g++ is missing. A symlink to g++-7 does the trick.
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PostPosted: Sun 21 Oct 2018, 06:18    Post subject:  

Thanks @watchdog....

devx was "malformed" Embarassed now rebuilt and re-uploaded....now gcc-8

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davids45


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PostPosted: Mon 22 Oct 2018, 01:45    Post subject: Module (CPU Temperature) not loading
Subject description: All else looking good for me
 

G'day peebee,

So nice to try a new 32-bit Puppy in which most things 'just work' for me, after my on-going hassles with several 64-bit Pups, mostly with scanning and printing, plus various apps which need libs in different places for different Pups.

Anyway, back on-topic......
... all my sfs-added apps look to be running and I can print and scan on my networked Epson WF-2510.
One difference to me is the testprint page which has a Pup logo Very Happy but the colour swatches are over some text - still readable but a little messy (screenshot).

Only problem I've come across is the module to monitor my computer temperatures is not loading. I've copied the MODULESCONFIG textfile in /etc/rc.d/ that has the needed module line and the module is listed in the Boot Manager as well.

But running sensors says no modules are loaded, and Pwidgets is blank in its Temp-CPU widgets (screenshot).
This has worked in all previous Pups so I'm puzzled.

Thanks for all your work,

David S.
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PostPosted: Mon 22 Oct 2018, 09:15    Post subject: Re: Module (CPU Temperature) not loading
Subject description: All else looking good for me
 

davids45 wrote:
Only problem I've come across is the module to monitor my computer temperatures is not loading.
David S.

Hi DavidS

The temperature icon never appears on first boot (known "feature") - it can be made to appear by doing an XServer (Graphical manager) restart. Or a reboot + savespace creation.

If you hover your mouse over the blank space in the systray you will probably see cpu details....
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davids45


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PostPosted: Mon 22 Oct 2018, 17:42    Post subject: Module for CPU data
Subject description: comparison with Bionic
 

G'day peebee,

Thanks for your reply about my Cuttlefish's lack of CPU data.

It's not just the tray temperature that I'm missing but also the more details that come up in my CPU-Temp widget.

Screenshots show Bionic with the smsc47b397 module running (info in widgets and tray) and Cosmic with nothing even after several re-boots.

The module ( smsc47b397 ) needed in my HP Small-form desktops is listed in the /etc/rc.d/MODULESCONFIG file and is working in all my other Pups.
In most other Pups, the tray temp needs the module loaded to display a temperature or a 'doesn't work on my system' message pops up.

Could I try this module from bionic in cosmic? (if I knew where to look Embarassed .)

David S.
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Revolverve

Joined: 08 Nov 2008
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PostPosted: Mon 22 Oct 2018, 20:29    Post subject:  

Nice work again peebee,
It should be the last time i write about it,anyhow bumping in the unknown world of fresh new small annoyance...
I did wrote that upupcc resolved my initmodule create at fresh install weirdness with hid-sensor-hub,well I was wrong,it seem if a initmodule.txt existed in your first save folder it does not rewrite a new one which i was not aware of.
So it did generate that upupccinitmodule.text="kernel/drivers/hid/hid-sensor-hub.ko,kernel/drivers/hid/hid-sensor-custom.ko,kernel/drivers/hid/hid-sensor-hub.ko,kernel/drivers/hid/wacom.ko"
No big fuss,boot stop 2 time 60 sec. ,you just edit the file and next boot is ok.
Did try to find the reason why,got only suspicion... with ubuntu live log
and kernel docs:(HID Sensors Framework)
The core driver registers (hid-sensor-hub) registers as a HID driver. It parses
report descriptors and identifies all the sensors present. It adds an MFD device
with name HID-SENSOR-xxxx (where xxxx is usage id from the specification).

So,assuming it see 2 sensor...which are not "kernel compiled available" puppy generate a "dummy" second hid sensor hub .. if it could be that........
Yes only one tested machine did it,yes all "newer" puppy" behave the same,yes this tabletpc include plenty of Micro$oft love in its uefi bios +no manufacturer intention to offer android support for it , but , give ubuntu team
an applause for getting it sorted out of that not so compliant uefi/acpi bios!
oh...no,i did not tried to compiled a kernel with the missing modules for that tablet.
You too peebee deserve claps ,as all devs,
your puppys are functionnals...and fancy looking.
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jplt_bis


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PostPosted: Fri 26 Oct 2018, 10:26    Post subject:  

Hi all,

i'am testing this new flavor upupcc .

I'am tryning to install via ppm xfce , after install witch to console : xwin xfce and i back to jwm ?

Does i miss something ?


Thanks , Great work peebee Wink
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peebee


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PostPosted: Fri 26 Oct 2018, 17:23    Post subject:  

jplt_bis wrote:
Hi all,
i'am testing this new flavor upupcc .
I'am tryning to install via ppm xfce , after install witch to console : xwin xfce and i back to jwm ?
Does i miss something ?
Thanks , Great work peebee Wink


xwin startxfce ???

or

xwin startxfce4 ???

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tosim

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PostPosted: Sat 27 Oct 2018, 09:42    Post subject: UPupCC 18.10+2
Subject description: Differences?
 

Could someone please explain differences between:
upupbb 18.05+16 and 18.10+2 ? I've looked all over and cannot get the differences elsewhere. Thanks for any help.
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mikeslr


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PostPosted: Sat 27 Oct 2018, 11:27    Post subject:  

Upupcc is woof-built using the binaries from Ubuntu Cosmic Cuttlefish. The latter was released as a "beta" on or about September 28, 2018. Upupcc was published shortly thereafter, on October 19.

A beta release means that while the OS appears to be fully functional, it has not been extensively tested under the "zillions" of differing hardware combinations available. As 'feed-back' from beta users is received, modifications to software packages and even 'core' modules are made.

peebee provides interim releases which incorporate those modifications, or which provide modifications unique to upupcc based on 'feed-back' from its users and/or his own further examination and experience. 18.10+2 included the modification he considered appropriate as of the date of the release of 18.10+2. 18.05+16, published at a later date, included those modification considered appropriate as of that date.

Post script: It has occurred to me that your reference to 'upupbb' may not have been a typing error. Upupbb is woof-build using the binaries of Ubuntu Bionic Beaver. Upupcc those of Ubuntu Cosmic Cuttlefish, an entirely different animal both figuratively and literally. All their core modules are not identical; and the ubuntu repos they can access are different, perhaps holding different versions of applications employing different libraries.

While sometimes the applications built for one can be run under the other, you can't count on that.

What I consider most important about their differences is that Bionic Beaver was published by Ubuntu with the representation that it would have Long Term Support --security updates, other fixes and that its repos would be maintained -- thru April 2023. Ubuntu Cosmic Cuttlefish, however, will only be supported for 9 months.

Puppy Linux is, of course, not bound by what Ubuntu decides. Lucid Puppy was kept up to date for several years after Ubuntu Lucid Lynx had reached its End of Life. But doing so, and especially keeping up with newer software, becomes more of a burden.

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PostPosted: Sat 27 Oct 2018, 11:50    Post subject: Re: UPupCC 18.10+2
Subject description: Differences?
 

tosim wrote:
Could someone please explain differences between:
upupbb 18.05+16 and 18.10+2 ? I've looked all over and cannot get the differences elsewhere. Thanks for any help.


upupbb (based on Ubuntu Bionic Beaver 18.04) was first built in May 2018 (18.05) and has had 16 updates since = 18.05+16

upupcc (based on Ubuntu Cosmic Cuttlefish 18.10) was first built in October 2018 (18.10) and has had 2 updates since = 18.10+2

They both have the same set of apps.

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picatrix

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PostPosted: Sat 27 Oct 2018, 13:04    Post subject: "SFS file from official repository" button doesn't work  

First of all, thanks Peebee for the great work!

Just a minimal glitch...It seems that the "choose SFS file from official repository" button doesn't work for me...
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cthisbear

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PostPosted: Tue 30 Oct 2018, 19:38    Post subject:  

Please consider adding

Simplecom NW601 Wireless USB

How to use Simplecom NW601 Wireless USB? (Solved)

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=1008529#1008529

No recent Pups have this incuding,

UPup Bionic Beaver
Bionicpup64
32-bit UPup Cosmic Cuttlefish
X-Slacko Slim

Page one Murga.

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=114560

::

perdido supplied these with help from Semme.

Both work after a reboot.
However I prefer for banking to boot a pristine Puppy,
add my stored bookmarks, and usually Slimjet and off I go.

http://ibm-pc.org/puppy/rtl8812au_rtl8821au-4.3.20_k4.1.48.pet

http://ibm-pc.org/puppy/rtl8812au-5.1.5_k4.1.48.pet

:::::

Linux Drivers from Simplecom site:

https://www.simplecom.com.au/media/linksforce/pdf/n/w/nw611_linux.zip


Many thanks...Chris.
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PostPosted: Tue 30 Oct 2018, 20:36    Post subject:  

cthisbear wrote:
Please consider adding

Simplecom NW601 Wireless USB

How to use Simplecom NW601 Wireless USB? (Solved)

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=1008529#1008529

No recent Pups have this incuding,

UPup Bionic Beaver
Bionicpup64
32-bit UPup Cosmic Cuttlefish
X-Slacko Slim

Page one Murga.

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=114560

::

perdido supplied these with help from Semme.

Both work after a reboot.
However I prefer for banking to boot a pristine Puppy,
add my stored bookmarks, and usually Slimjet and off I go.

http://ibm-pc.org/puppy/rtl8812au_rtl8821au-4.3.20_k4.1.48.pet

http://ibm-pc.org/puppy/rtl8812au-5.1.5_k4.1.48.pet

:::::

Linux Drivers from Simplecom site:

https://www.simplecom.com.au/media/linksforce/pdf/n/w/nw611_linux.zip


Many thanks...Chris.


Please note:
Source for the working rtl8812au driver is located at
https://github.com/zebulon2/rtl8812au

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PostPosted: Thu 01 Nov 2018, 18:49    Post subject:  

please fix the sudoku.desktop file
Exec=sh -c "url=file:///var/www/sudoku/index.html" ; defaultbrowser $url
Exec=defaultbrowser file:///var/www/sudoku/index.html
the icon don't show in the menu

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