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Walt52

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PostPosted: Thu 27 Sep 2018, 11:44    Post subject:  finding lost photos
Subject description: reinstalling windows in dual boot erased puppy photo folders
 

I have an Inspiron 1501 that refuses to die, and was running Tahr 6.0 from a disk, with XP on the drive. The save files were on an SD chip, but it started to fill up, so I started moving the pictures to SDA2. Then Windows had a problem, and since I thought it was just on SDA1, I reformatted that and reinstalled. Suddenly my pictures were "gone" (or at least not accessible). I gather there are many data recovery programs, so my questions are:

1. Is a recovery program necessary?
2. Since windows is occupying that space, would I need to use Windows to access the old files? and
3. What's the best data recovery program for Tahr?
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fabrice_035


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PostPosted: Thu 27 Sep 2018, 12:06    Post subject: Re: finding lost photos
Subject description: reinstalling windows in dual boot erased puppy photo folders
 

Walt52 wrote:

3. What's the best data recovery program for Tahr?


Hi,
Try that if you want :

https://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/T%C3%A9l%C3%A9charger_TestDisk

Regard
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davids45


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PostPosted: Thu 27 Sep 2018, 19:43    Post subject: sda2 format?  

G'day Walt,

Could you clarify....
Quote:
was running Tahr 6.0 from a disk

Is this a Live-CD? Does this still run on your system after Windows took over again?

What format is/was sda2 (ntfs or linux ext)? Should we suspect/fear Windows wiped the entire drive during its re-install - not just "C:/" (sda1)? I can't recall if XP asks to install to just C-drive (good) or to reformat the whole drive (bad) or doesn't ask at all and just reformats the drive (very bad).

If the Tahr disk still runs the computer, GParted sees what drives on the hard-drive?

Hope for the best, but fear the worst,

David S.
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Walt52

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PostPosted: Sat 29 Sep 2018, 00:12    Post subject:  

It's not a live CD: all the Puppy saving was done to an SD card. I'm assuming Windows reformatted the entire drive, so if that's the case, can ANYthing be recovered?
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Burn_IT


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PostPosted: Sat 29 Sep 2018, 08:28    Post subject:  

Please do not just blame Windows if you told it to use the space.
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perdido


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PostPosted: Sat 29 Sep 2018, 10:17    Post subject:  

You can use linux to try to recover from the damage windows has done when it tricked you into accidently formatting your drive.
The program fabrice suggested works.

You may or may not recover some files.
Do not run windows on that computer until after you try recovering the files, this is so that the file space does not get written to by windows.

Go to https://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Download
download the TestDisk & PhotoRec 7.0 (18 April 2015), Data Recovery
Either the "Linux, kernel 2.6.18 or later i386" 32-bit or "Linux, kernel 2.6.18 or later x86_64" 64-bit version
(puppy tahr can be either 32-bit or 64-bit depending on which version you installed)

Instructions for using testdisk here
https://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step
Everything runs from the terminal.

More puppy specific instructions here
https://forums.whatthetech.com/index.php?showtopic=120830 (the screen pics are gone but still good info)
Some info from the forum
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=28453
........
And a windows program you can try, recuva from ccleaner
https://www.ccleaner.com/recuva/features/portable-version
Screenshots of recuva
https://www.ccleaner.com/recuva/screenshots

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Burn_IT


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PostPosted: Sat 29 Sep 2018, 10:34    Post subject:  

Do not create false impressions.
Windows installs do NOT trick people into formatting their drive any more than ANY new OS install does - including Linux.
You are not doing Puppy any good by presenting users in such a light.

Puppy is actually designed to live along side Windows, and I suspect a large percentage of the users use it this way.
If it wasn't for this, one of the major reasons for choosing Puppy over other versions of Linux would immediately disappear.

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perdido


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PostPosted: Sat 29 Sep 2018, 11:07    Post subject:  

Burn_IT wrote:
Do not create false impressions.
Windows installs do NOT trick people into formatting their drive any more than ANY new OS install does - including Linux.
You are not doing Puppy any good by presenting users in such a light.

Puppy is actually designed to live along side Windows, and I suspect a large percentage of the users use it this way.
If it wasn't for this, one of the major reasons for choosing Puppy over other versions of Linux would immediately disappear.


What the heck are you even in this thread for???????
You never provide help.
Quit trolling and provide some real help for once.

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Burn_IT


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PostPosted: Sat 29 Sep 2018, 11:31    Post subject:  

I provide help when help is needed.
What I will not do is follow the sheeple that attack other OSs because they think it is clever when all it does is show just how childish SOME users can be.

Computers have helped to make the civilised world a slightly better place. That has been helped by the fact that there ARE many solutions to the problems and some OSs solve them better than others and vice versa. Without the cross contamination of ideas, computing would still be years behind where it is today.

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Walt52

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PostPosted: Sun 30 Sep 2018, 11:01    Post subject:  

Thanks, Peter, fabrice and Perdido. In going to the site you recommended, I found this, which explains how I got into this mess in the first place:

Here's a quick explanation: Linux sees hard drives in the order they are connected to the motherboard as shown in your PC's BIOS and not in the order they may appear in your Windows operating system, don't assume the c drive in windows is the first partition on your first hard drive, it may well not be.

Linux names hard drives sda, sdb, sdc etc. (used to be hda, hdb, hdc etc.) for the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc. hard drive as seen in BIOS.
Primary partitions on those drives are shown as numbers 1,2,3,4. if your hard drives have extended logical partitions then those numbers will start at 5 (so for an XP system with an OS partition and a 2nd data partition on it's first drive you'd probably see "sda1" and "sda5" where the "sda5" is the 2nd partition, there are not 5 partitions on the drive and for some reason 2,3,4 don't show.)

This is how chronic n00bs like me learn! This will take some time, but now I have a roadmap and some hope!
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