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nubc · Joined: 23 Jan 2007 Posts: 2090 Location: USA

I'm running Tahr 6.0.5 and FF Quantum 62.0.2 (32-bit) on a Dell Precision Dual Core with 4 GB ram. About a week ago, YouTube started refusing to play every other YT video, giving an HTML5 error. What has happened and how do I fix this?

My guess is that an autoupdate of FF Quantum, which typically freezes my computer necessitating hard shutdown, overwrote settings related to apulse. Can someone link me to the apulse thread by OscarTalks. That's odd, his user name did not show results when searched.
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?search_id=966376612&t=113353&start=30

How does this happen to just me, and not other Puppy users? Don't you guys use YouTube?

nic007 · Posted: Wed 26 Sep 2018, 07:22 Post subject:

Copyright issues could be one of the things. In the past months there has definitely been a drive to disable viewing of copyrighted material altough those videos are still listed. I use Palemoon so I don't think this is browser related unless your browser do not support html5 (old browsers). Having said that - I have been able to download some videos which would not view on the youtube site.

nubc · Joined: 23 Jan 2007 Posts: 2090 Location: USA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqtntgqhVSo
Using Palemoon

rockedge · Posted: Wed 26 Sep 2018, 08:48 Post subject:

video runs nicely on palemoon 28 for me... good tune by the way....

nic007 · Posted: Wed 26 Sep 2018, 09:21 Post subject:

Doesn't for me so my Palemoon is too old (Version25...). Could it be that the video is encoded using VP9 and not VP8?

rockedge · Posted: Wed 26 Sep 2018, 09:45 Post subject:

yes I believe your version is definitely the cause. Even the version 27.9+ started to give me hassles with some javascript music / video players I use on various websites I've built. The recent version 28 so far has played nicely with those players and seems to run Youtube and Facebook video OK.

I also have palemoon 28+ running on Corepup-6 which is based on TinyCore Linux and that is on a IBM T-42 Pentium M 785 megs of RAM. Palemoon performs fairly well on this 2003 machine. Runs in Tahr 6.0.6 nopae on the same machine. Works with the same Tahr with a 4.17.9 kernel swapped in and using "forcepae" in the boot options. Palemoon works on this IBM T-42 when other browsers won't really at all.

oldaolgeezer · Joined: 03 Dec 2006 Posts: 64

nubc:

After the yesteryear's youtube purge of flash player video formats,
I sympathize with you about the increasing difficulty of finding a
Puppy browser (Firefox - Chrome - palemoon) and Puppy
audio (ALSA - pulseaudio) and video library
software (HTML5 - H.264, MPEG codecs) being able to play the
latest round of seemingly constantly tweaked by Google youtube
video formats.

nic007 mentioned probable VP9 video encoding:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VP9

As rockedge confirmed:
There seems to be some hope (at the moment) with "out of the box"
Puppy version and Puppy library versions and Puppy browser version:
I tried your example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqtntgqhVSo
and it played for me using palemoon version 28.1.0 32 bit running on
Puppy upupbb 18.05.

Hope this helps.

nic007 · Posted: Wed 26 Sep 2018, 10:41 Post subject:

All YT videos (as far as I know) is also available in mp4 format on their servers. Why they decided to go with .webm only viewing which requires newer and newer browsers to play it, is unfortunate. They should enable mp4 streaming from their servers.

bigpup · Joined: 11 Oct 2009 Posts: 13981 Location: S.C. USA

fabrice_035 · Joined: 28 Apr 2014 Posts: 768 Location: Bretagne / France

Hey,
I already had the same problem (firefox quantum), I do not know if it's the same thing, but I solved the problem by erasing the profil folder . Or try in command line,

nic007 · Posted: Wed 26 Sep 2018, 11:12 Post subject:

Ah, thought there must be a workaround. Play the file in mp4 (or even mp3 if it's basic only audio) format with your external player like so: Go to https://getvideo.at/en/ > copy and then paste the youtube link in the "enter a video link box) > click search > all available formats for the video will be displayed > right-click on the mp4 option of your choice > select one of the open link options (I'm using Palemoon could be different for other browsers) > your distributions default mediaplayer should play it now (Tahr's VLC in my case). Smile

Edit: This site works faster for youtube. https://youtubemultidownloader.net/. Copy and paste video link in box > right-click your mp4 choice in dark blue and open link.

bigpup · Joined: 11 Oct 2009 Posts: 13981 Location: S.C. USA

I use PaleMoon and have no issues with YouTube.
There is a preferences setting for video to make sure is turned on.
preferences>Content>Video>enable media source extensions (MSE)

nubc · Joined: 23 Jan 2007 Posts: 2090 Location: USA

Bigpup, this is a frugal install, using a tahrpup 605 CD as boot device. I have two 4T hard drives. The first drive has a small partition for tahrsave and two sfs directories. The remainder of the first drive is a data partition. The second hard drive is a single data partition. All partitions are e3 file system.

Bigpup, what version of palemoon?

I'm not too thrilled about using PaleMoon instead of FF Quantum. As I recall, my preferred virtual keyboard did not work in PM's browser address field. There was also the issue of PM not having a standard YT downloader add-on.

What is the highest version to which Tahrpup 605's PM 25.8.1 will update?

a_salty_dogg · Joined: 15 Dec 2013 Posts: 181

Palemoon-updater at "Menu > Internet" is deprecated and will no longer work.

Latest Palemoon version is 28.1.0 which needs to be downloaded from here (choosing the correct tarball for your OS's architecture, 32 or 64 bit), then the contents of the tarball extracted to "/opt/".

Compatible with all Puppies going back to Precise and Slacko 5.7, including all flavours of Tahr.
(Wary, and possibly Lucid (? dunno, don't use it), need watchdog's "tweak" .pet)

Updates from version 28 onwards can be performed from within the browser at "Help > About Pale Moon > Check for Updates".

s243a · Joined: 02 Sep 2014 Posts: 2626