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Colonel Panic


Joined: 16 Sep 2006
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PostPosted: Tue 31 Jul 2018, 03:10    Post subject:  

Just installed the beta of Mint Debian 3 (Cinnamon). It's working very well and I honestly can't see any difference between this and the Ubuntu-based version of Mint.

Just one small gripe though; I much prefer the wallpaper and standard theme of the old Mint. Dark is the order of the day now it seems.

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Billtoo


Joined: 07 Apr 2009
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Location: Ontario Canada

PostPosted: Sat 04 Aug 2018, 22:13    Post subject: Other Distros  

I installed Ubuntu-18.04 to the hard drive of my Hp desktop:

System: Host: bill-260-p029 Kernel: 4.15.0-29-generic x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: Gnome 3.28.2
Distro: Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS
Machine: Device: desktop System: HP product: 260-p029 serial: N/A
Mobo: HP model: 81B4 v: 01 serial: N/A UEFI [Legacy]: AMI v: F.04 date: 05/10/2016
Battery hidpp__0: charge: N/A condition: NA/NA Wh
hidpp__1: charge: N/A condition: NA/NA Wh
CPU: Dual core Intel Core i3-6100T (-MT-MCP-) speed/max: 800/3200 MHz
Graphics: Card: Intel HD Graphics 530
Display Server: x11 (X.Org 1.19.6 ) driver: i915 Resolution: 1920x1080@60.00hz
OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 530 (Skylake GT2) version: 4.5 Mesa 18.0.5
Network: Card-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller driver: r8169
Card-2: Realtek RTL8723BE PCIe Wireless Network Adapter driver: rtl8723be
Drives: HDD Total Size: 1031.7GB (1.1% used)
Weather: Conditions: 77 F (25 C) - Partly Cloudy Time: August 4, 10:04 PM EDT
Info: Processes: 261 Uptime: 1:38 Memory: 1112.8/3807.0MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.56

I was running another OS on this pc but I prefer Ubuntu to it.
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Colonel Panic


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PostPosted: Fri 17 Aug 2018, 16:35    Post subject:  

The latest beta of Slackel 7.1, a Greek distro based on both Salix and Slackware, is out now and includes recent versions of both Firefox (61.0.2) and LibreOffice (6.0.5.2). I've been testing the Openbox version (the only one they've released so far in the 7.1 series) and it comes with a pleasant green theme and matching soft focus wallpaper of what to me looks like a field of long grasses.

And as far as I can see, everything seems to work. Definitely worth a look in my view.

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Colonel Panic


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PostPosted: Wed 22 Aug 2018, 16:07    Post subject:  

Installed AntiX 17.1 (64-bit) today, and it's working well and seems very economical on resources (the default wallpaper of a train station in the evening is surprisingly effective
too);

https://distrowatch.com/images/cgfjoewdlbc/antix.png

BTW, although I haven't done any comparison test between the system resources the 64-bit version uses compared to the 32-bit, I haven't so far noticed any great difference between the two.

[EDIT: Nope, the second time I tried it the X server broke and hasn't come back. I'm getting seriously tired of this.]

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Billtoo


Joined: 07 Apr 2009
Posts: 3553
Location: Ontario Canada

PostPosted: Fri 31 Aug 2018, 00:18    Post subject: Other Distros  

I installed Manjaro to the hard drive of my Lenovo desktop:

System: Host: bill-pc Kernel: 4.14.66-1-MANJARO x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: N/A Distro: Manjaro Linux
Machine: Type: Desktop System: LENOVO product: 7491B8U v: ThinkCentre M58e serial: <root required>
Mobo: LENOVO model: N/A serial: <root required> BIOS: LENOVO v: 5HKT39AUS date: 06/17/2009
CPU: Dual Core: Intel Core2 Duo E8400 type: MCP speed: 2529 MHz min/max: 2003/3003 MHz
Graphics: Device-1: NVIDIA GT216 [GeForce GT 220] driver: nvidia v: 340.107
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.1 driver: nvidia resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz, 1920x1080~60Hz
OpenGL: renderer: GeForce GT 220/PCIe/SSE2 v: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 340.107
Network: Device-1: Marvell 88E8057 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet driver: sky2
Drives: Local Storage: total: 298.09 GiB used: 6.44 GiB (2.2%)
Weather: Temperature: 17 C (63 F) Conditions: N/A
Current Time: Thu 30 Aug 2018 11:57:04 PM EDT (America/Rainy_River)
Info: Processes: 138 Uptime: 59m Memory: 3.86 GiB used: 1.24 GiB (32.2%) Shell: bash inxi: 3.0.21

I installed a legacy nvidia card so I'd be able to connect two monitors,
Manjaro installed the proprietary driver.
There is an option to select from 7 or 8 kernels, I chose the
recommended LTS kernel.

Works well so far.
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watchdog

Joined: 28 Sep 2012
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Location: Italy

PostPosted: Mon 03 Sep 2018, 06:32    Post subject: LineageOS in usb stick  

https://sites.google.com/a/android-x86.org/web/releases/releasenote-cm-x86-14-1-r2

https://sites.google.com/a/android-x86.org/web/download

https://sourceforge.net/p/android-x86/wiki/Installation/

I used unetbootin to put the iso in a 2 Gb usb stick and installed in another 8 Gb usb stick. It somehow works. Whatsapp from:

https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/whatsapp-inc/whatsapp/variant-%7B%22arches_slug%22%3A%5B%22x86%22%5D%7D/
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rufwoof

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PostPosted: Tue 04 Sep 2018, 13:51    Post subject: FuguIta - OpenBSD liveCD  

http://fuguita.org/?FuguIta Downloaded the iso.gz, gzip -d decompressed it and wrote the iso image to a DVD, booted, mostly pressing enter at the prompts other than selecting 0 normal boot, entering uk for country, I used cd as my domain name and entered a root password. It picked up my openbsd on HDD swap slice. Logged in as root and created /etc/installurl containing https://www.mirrorservice.org/pub/OpenBSD which is my local mirror i.e. selected from https://www.openbsd.org/ftp.html) then ran pkg_add iridium ... to start the installation of a browser, and whilst that was running through I ctrl-alt-f2 and logged in again and ran adduser to add userid user (adding the user to the wheel group so it can su). By the time I'd finished that and echo cwm >/home/user/.xinitrc and then ran startx, the terminal session of ctrl-alt-F1 had finished the installation of iridium. Ctrl-alt-F5 to the gui session and alt-? (alt-shift-/) and typing in iridium ... and moments later up popped the browser. Fonts etc small, so I edited /home/user/.Xdefaults and added Xft.dpi: 144 to that (and created a sym link ln -s .Xdefaults .Xsession. I also created .cwmrc containing the following before restarting X again
Code:
# .cwmrc
#
gap                             2 0 0 0
ignore                          xclock
ignore                          xload
color inactiveborder            Black
color activeborder              "#494949"
color groupborder               "#01a252"
color urgencyborder             "#3d9751"
color selfont                   "#0034A9"
color font                      "#FFFFFF"
color menufg                    "#49F6F6"
color menubg                    "#333333"
#fontname                       "DejaVu Sans:size=11:antialias=true"
fontname                        "News10:size=11:antialias=true"
bind-key CM-comma               "mixerctl outputs.master=-5"
bind-key CM-period              "mixerctl outputs.master=+5"

top is showing 652MB as I type this using iridium (2GB system + 2GB swap)

In the last few months I've switched over from using a word processor to simply creating my own html files (using a limited/basic set of HTML tags). I can then view that in a browser and print to PDF file. Iridium supports playing mp4's etc and can view PDF's. So with some vi and html syntax skills it looks like you can have a decent desktop system using Fuguita (OpenBSD liveCD) - more so if like me you like cwm. Even more so if you use online mail, calendar, contacts and a calculator such as https://www.calculator.net/scientific-calculator.html (nicer than xcalc). And as I have a OBSD based data server, I can save/edit things to/from that as desired.

Usage wise, I ran rcctl set sndiod flags -s default -m play,mon -s mon and rcctl restart sndiod as per https://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq13.html#recordmon as youtube sound wasn't working. After that sound was heard but youtubes were stalling. Logged completely out of user and back in again and all was good. Also ran mixerctl outputs.hp_boost=on ... to turn the sound boost on.

Sometimes stutters if usage is modest/high, such as capturing a screenshot whilst playing a youtube. I saw that swap has risen to 278MB used, so guess that my 2GB RAM is towards the lower end of what might be needed in practice when running liveCD. Running iridium with no cache also seems to help if you're on a reasonably fast uplink ... iridium --disk-cache-size=0

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PostPosted: Wed 12 Sep 2018, 18:52    Post subject:  

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Fatdog desktop, OpenBSD data server (that looks for Fatdog and reverse sshfs mounts a /data folder mountpoint on Fatdog whenever it boots). Fatdog sshfs mounts my Android phone whenever its within the wireless zone.

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Colonel Panic


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PostPosted: Thu 13 Sep 2018, 02:32    Post subject:  

Still persevering with Slackware (the 64-bit version), so here are a few notes. Compared to most distros, it has a strong "retro" feel and look to it (apart from in KDE); it comes with a range of older window managers as standard, including blackbox and twm (which I'm using now).

I can't get LibreOffice to run on it (something to do with the Java Runtime files, which you have to install separately on Slack), but I managed to get Apache Open Office 4 to work although I first had to download it as a collection of .rpm files and batch convert them all to the tgz format before I could install it.

It also wouldn't run SoftMaker Office 18, though it does run the latest version of FreeOffice.

It comes with Calligra as standard, but I detest Calligra and have now removed it after it inserted a load of extra blank lines between the paragraphs in one of my documents for no reason (thank goodness for gvim, which enabled me to remove them all by setting up a macro for that purpose).

Dedoimedo didn't think much of it either;

https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/calligra-suite.html

I have to re-enable networking every time I log on although that's easily done with the dhclient command.

In summary; it's still highly usable but it takes quite a bit more setting up and fiddling around with than do most distros in 2018, and there's still no easy and automatic way of addressing the dependency problem for programs such as osmo and libreoffice (apparently it's that way by design as most Slack users still don't want Debian-style dependency handling). You also can't update the distro in one go as you can in Debian with the apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade commands, but nor does it overwrite certain configuration files, such as twm's, when you boot it up as Debian does.

You don't have to edit the xorg configuration file by hand any more, which you had to in 2003 when I first started using a Slackware derivative, and it sets up other partitions, including USB drives, to load automatically on bootup when you install it (would that other distros, including Ubuntu and Debian, did the same).

It's also one of the very few distros now that doesn't insist you set up a user account; you can log in as root and run the whole distro from there.

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PostPosted: Sat 15 Sep 2018, 07:04    Post subject:  

I've just discovered that Siduction, one of my favourite Debian-based distros, has decided to go 64-bit only from now on. I can understand the devs' need to economise on their time and effort but nevertheless one of the distro's main attractions for me is that there was still a 32-bit version when most other distros are now 64-bit only.

I think in future I might use Debian (32-bit) instead and upgrade to Testing from there.

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aledie

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PostPosted: Sat 15 Sep 2018, 14:56    Post subject:  

MX-17 / Voyager 18.04 (both XFCE, both great) - now
Linux Mint 18.3 (LXDE) - before
Slitaz / Antix - USB
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