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#361 Post by radky »

Hi Bill,

Thanks for testing RC3 with nvidia graphics. If I understand correctly, you successfully compiled and use the 304.137 nvidia driver, and have no problems using the Puppy Package Manager (PPM). Maybe 01101001b's problem with PPM is something more than the 304.137 nvidia driver?

Billtoo wrote:
The md5sum for the kernel sources sfs didn't match
Yes, I recently updated the DotConfig file for the 4.9.X kernel and uploaded the new build, but forgot to update the md5sum in the first post. Now corrected.


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Got the CC mismatch error again (compiling the nvidia driver), is there a problem with the devx?
The devx for Dpup Stretch contains GCC: 6.3.0, as generated by Woof-CE. However, to support meltdown and spectre mitigation, the kernel must be built with GCC equal to or greater than 7.3.0. I think the reason you see the "cc version check failed" error while compiling the nividia driver is explained in the following link at nvidia.com (even so, the compilation is generally successful).

https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topi ... posed-fix/

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Hi sc0ttman,

Thanks for the link to your command-line package manager. Looks like it has great potential for Puppy. :)
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#363 Post by 01101001b »

Billtoo wrote:I did another install on Dpup Stretch 7.5 Linux 4.9.101-stretch i686
VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF110 [GeForce GTX 560 Ti OEM] (rev a1)
I compiled the 304.137 nvidia driver (about a year old)
radky wrote:Hi Bill, If I understand correctly, you successfully compiled and use the 304.137 nvidia driver, and have no problems using the Puppy Package Manager (PPM). Maybe 01101001b's problem with PPM is something more than the 304.137 nvidia driver?
Hi everyone. I can only spot 3 (meaningful?) differences:

- I'm using Dpup Stretch 7.5 Linux 4.9.71-stretch i686 (however when I upgraded to RC3 and reinstalled nvidia drivers, problem persisted).
- Although driver version is correct (304.137) my vga controller is different: NVIDIA Corporation C61 [GeForce 7025 / nForce 630a] (rev a2)
- I don't use JWM but FbBox.

I can't think of anything else. I don't use rare software or strange settings.

I appreciate all your efforts but I think it's enough. Since I seem to be the only one with this issue :roll: but now having an alternative (thanks again Sc0ttman :wink: ) this problem doesn't merit any more testing. As far as I am concerned, Dpup Stretch 7.5 is a go 8)

If in some near future I happened to find the culprit of this annoyance, I'll post it here just for information. Thank you all! :D

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dbus and bluetooth

#364 Post by sc0ttman »

I can't get my bluetooth dongle working... I'd like to connect up a Ipega gamepad, and a wireless keyboard..

Seems that this Stretch puppy uses its own dbus libs, and this *may* be the problem, when using th bluetooth packages in the repo...

I could install the dbus packages from the repo, which might fix bluetooth, but it would break other stuff (file open dialogs?) ...

Has anyone been able to get Bluetooth working in this Stretch?
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#365 Post by sc0ttman »

Hi guys... Here are come other (minor) problems I found... Most of which could *probably* be forwarded to the woof2 devs, but should check here first...

These "problems" or "bugs" were encountered while trying to work out which packages are pre-installed (builtin) and what their contents are:

Problem 1:

libimlib2 is builtin, but only ~/.packages/builtin_files/libimlib exists..
This causes 'libimlib2' to not be "found" easily when working with builtins...

Solution: as no imlib v1 is installed (it seems),
you can rename the offending file to ~/.packages/builtin_files/libimlib2

Problem 2:

Peasydiff and emelfm2 have files installed, but are not listed as builtin packages.

Problem 3:

The list of built in Xorg and xserver packages in ~/.packages/builtin_files/ does not even closely match the list of builtin Xorg packages according to ~/.packages/woof-installed-packages ... No idea why..


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All of these are probably 'problems' at the woof level, or intended cutomisations for Stretch.. But thought I would point them out..
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#366 Post by sc0ttman »

Just my 2 cents:

Puppy should probably include by default working MTP/android mounting tools,
and working Bluetooth - given how many services and devices rely on (or
benefit from) them these days..

Getting my Android phone or bluetooth devices connected up to any new
Puppy is never as easy as it should be... and often hit and miss!
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#367 Post by radky »

01101001b,

Recent updates in Woof-CE address several issues in Puppy Package Manager (PPM), including your report of PPM failure and the associated error message: unable to obtain size of remote file. The next release of Dpup Stretch 7.5 will include the PPM updates.

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sc0ttman,

The problems you report with builtin files (libimlib2, peasydiff, emelfm2) will be corrected in the next Dpup release.

The variation of xorg/xserver files shown in ~/.packages/builtin_files and ~/.packages/woof-installed-packages is determined by Woof-CE. You will see this also in other Woof-CE Pups.

Concerning android mounting tools, in the next release of Dpup Stretch I can include mtp_detect as currently utilized by 666philb in xenialpup. This works fine with my motorola smartphone.

Concerning Bluetooth in Dpup Stretch, I do not use Bluetooth peripherals so my experience is limited. If you (or other users) find a working solution, I would be happy to include it in the next release of Dpup Stretch.

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#368 Post by 01101001b »

radky wrote:Recent updates in Woof-CE address several issues [...] including your report of PPM failure [...]. The next release of Dpup Stretch 7.5 will include the PPM updates.
Great! :lol:
In the next release [...] I can include mtp_detect as currently utilized by 666philb in xenialpup.
Another great idea indeed! I used to connect my phone with no fuss when that app appeared in my former system (lxxenialpup).

Then, in lxartfulpup, it disappeared :shock: Only solution I found then was to use "My Phone Explorer" option to access my Samsung Note II folders.

In a stroke of luck, I could find in a forgotten corner of the internet, an old time version of mpt_detect, mpt-status and go-mtps.

By the way, how can I get rid of the PupCamera every time I connect a most modern phone in my system? (thankfully I have not this problem when connecting my Note II). Geeez... it's a kick in the teeth :cry:

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#369 Post by radky »

01101001b wrote:By the way, how can I get rid of the PupCamera (device autodetection) every time I connect a most modern phone in my system?
To disable device autodetection by pupcamera, you could try the following:

Comment (prepend) line 12 of /etc/udev/rules.d/88-puppy-autodetect.rules with the hash symbol (#), and reboot.
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#370 Post by s243a »

My 2.5 year old daughter was playing with the keyboard and now the sound isn't working. Are there any tools to reset the defaults or troubleshoot sound?

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#371 Post by OscarTalks »

Is the retrovol speaker icon still present in the notification area?
You could try deleting /root/.retrovolrc and reboot.
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#372 Post by s243a »

OscarTalks wrote:Is the retrovol speaker icon still present in the notification area?
You could try deleting /root/.retrovolrc and reboot.
When I click on the speaker icon and select about it says, "About PNMixer", I don't see any file that says /root/.retrovolrc and I have the folder set to view hidden files.

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#373 Post by s243a »

s243a wrote:
OscarTalks wrote:Is the retrovol speaker icon still present in the notification area?
You could try deleting /root/.retrovolrc and reboot.
When I click on the speaker icon and select about it says, "About PNMixer", I don't see any file that says /root/.retrovolrc and I have the folder set to view hidden files.
Since sound wasn't working in the browser I thought I'd try another test:

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# espeak "test"
ALSA lib pcm.c:2266:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.rear
ALSA lib pcm.c:2266:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.center_lfe
ALSA lib pcm.c:2266:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.side
ALSA lib pcm_route.c:867:(find_matching_chmap) Found no matching channel map
ALSA lib pcm_equal.c:196:(_snd_pcm_equal_open) No slave configuration for equal pcm
ALSA lib pcm_equal.c:196:(_snd_pcm_equal_open) No slave configuration for equal pcm
Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory
Cannot connect to server request channel
jack server is not running or cannot be started
JackShmReadWritePtr::~JackShmReadWritePtr - Init not done for -1, skipping unlock
JackShmReadWritePtr::~JackShmReadWritePtr - Init not done for -1, skipping unlock
Time to google how to restart my jack server. Maybe that is the issue.

Edit: I opened alsa mixer (from the command line) played with the settings and now it is working :) Not sure why I wasn't able to do it with PNMixer.

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#374 Post by s243a »

I'm having trouble using the version of gpg2 from the debian repo (see thread), and I think this is likely due to not having IPv6 set-up on my system. Perhaps there is a puppy version of pgp2 that I should have installed instead that will work without IPv6. If so may I request that we incorporate gpg2 into the next release of dpup stretch?

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#375 Post by 01101001b »

radky wrote:To disable device autodetection by pupcamera, you could try the following:
I'll try it next time. Thank you Radky! :)

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#376 Post by 01101001b »

s243a wrote:I'm having trouble using the version of gpg2 from the debian repo (see thread) [...] If so may I request that we incorporate gpg2 into the next release of dpup stretch?
Hi s243a!
AFAIK Debian Stretch has no gpg2 version yet. What it has is just a symlink to gpg. That's it. You can check this out here (evidently, the same goes for Dpup Stretch, I guess :cry: )

If I'm talking nonsense, somebody please let me know :D

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#377 Post by ethplorer »

how updated is the browser of this pup?

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#378 Post by OscarTalks »

ethplorer wrote:how updated is the browser of this pup?
Included browser is Palemoon 27.9.3 which is fairly recent.
Update to Palemoon 28.x is easy to do but there may be a few issues with it so you may choose not to.
Other browsers can be easily installed.
Why do you ask the question, what is your specific concern?
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#379 Post by ethplorer »

OscarTalks wrote:
ethplorer wrote:how updated is the browser of this pup?
Included browser is Palemoon 27.9.3 which is fairly recent.
Update to Palemoon 28.x is easy to do but there may be a few issues with it so you may choose not to.
Other browsers can be easily installed.
Why do you ask the question, what is your specific concern?
got it thanks. i was hoping to install chrome but its not available in the pup package manager already. can you please lead me to the list of dpup pet packages?

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#380 Post by OscarTalks »

ethplorer wrote:got it thanks. i was hoping to install chrome but its not available in the pup package manager already. can you please lead me to the list of dpup pet packages?
This Puppy is 32bit so no recent Chrome is available. If it MUST be Google Chrome then it will have to be an older one.

Other Chromium derivative browsers are available, some don't produce 32bit versions any more, but others still do. Slimjet worked last time I looked but has to be run as spot, not as root. Vivaldi works, but the User Interface is not everybody's cup of tea. I like it myself but it is personal taste.

I don't think there is a Puppy Stretch repo as such. I suggest you look in the Additional Software > Browsers and Internet section of this forum for suggestions but read carefully to determine which packages are suitable.
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