How to install/Update latest Firefox on Lucid/Precise Puppy?

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How to install/Update latest Firefox on Lucid/Precise Puppy?

#1 Post by dcung »

Hi,
I'm new to Puppy Linux or any Linux...

My older laptop (Sony VAIO, Intel Celeron M @1.50MHz, 1GB RAM, 80GB SATA HDD, DVDRW), has Lucid Puppy 528 and Precise Puppy 571. I just fresh installed those.

For Lucid 528, I found I can use quickpet to install Firefox (old), then using Firefox help/about/update, it can be updated to v45.0.2. After that it says "You can not perform further update..."

I downloaded Firefox-61.0.1.tar.bz2, but apart from extracting the files, I don't know what to do. Tried clicking "update" of extracted files, nothing happened...

Found these older threads, but can't really make sense out of them...
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=100772
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 5&start=30
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=106656

On my better laptop that I install XenPup64.7.5, it's a lot easier...just letting auto update do its magic :)

Could someone help/explain to install please? I gather from reading those threads quickly, I need some more packages and stuff?

Thank you.
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#2 Post by watchdog »

I have built to play with a pet package for precise of firefox 61.0.1 en_US. It does not work in lucid in my opinion. Lucid has an older glibc. I suggest palemoon 27.9.4 for lucid. Backup your savefile. Then install my firefox package in precise and run in console:

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fixmenus
Then restart X. For sound working I attach a picture of my settings in about:config. Open a new tab and type as address "about:config". Accept the risk and search "sandbox".

firefox-61.0.1-en_US-x86-p571.pet:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1yYlS3Z ... sp=sharing

EDIT: remember to install libgtk-3 by PPM to run the latest firefox.
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#3 Post by dcung »

Hi watchdog,
Many thanks for your assistance.
Now I have working Firefox61 on Precise, and learnt few things along the process.
Since it was working right away after installing your .pet, I didn't run 'fixmenu'. Do I need to do that?


As you said, Lucid has older stuff, and harder for me to get around. Still working on getting a decent browser for it. Trying to install Palemoon as you suggested. I suppose I'll need to find Palemoon PET from somewhere?

https://linux.palemoon.org/
Reading that, so far I can confirm this laptop support sse2.
I am trying to install/validate these on Lucid, but PPM on Lucid is also older ,none of database links work, hence problem for me...
GTK+ v2.24
GLibc v2.17
Pango
X.Org
libstdc++ 4.3

I am enjoying the learning anyway, so all good... :)
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#4 Post by dcung »

A little bit off topic...

Precise 5.7.1 comes with Seamonkey 2.19. (I set preference/Advanced/Software Installation to automatically download and install update daily, but no update so far)

How do you update it? From the website, latest is v2.49 and I downloaded it, but since it's not in .pet, no use for me.
In PPM, I don't see Seamonkey 2.49 pet, even after updating the database.

UPDATE - for those that have similar issue. IHTH
I got it resolved. Running v2.49.3 now. I follow this thread (specifically posting by musher0. Thanks musher0).
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=113319

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#5 Post by watchdog »

dcung wrote: Since it was working right away after installing your .pet, I didn't run 'fixmenu'. Do I need to do that?
No, you don't need to run fixmenus if you already have Firefox 61.0.1 in Menu.

As you said, Lucid has older stuff, and harder for me to get around. Still working on getting a decent browser for it. Trying to install Palemoon as you suggested. I suppose I'll need to find Palemoon PET from somewhere?
Backup your savefile in lucid and try to install my palemoon-27.9.4-p4-glibc219tweak.pet:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 676#973676

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#6 Post by dcung »

watchdog wrote:Backup your savefile in lucid and try to install my palemoon-27.9.4-p4-glibc219tweak.pet:
Done. Yay...Works! Thank you watchdog.
Palemoon seems to perform better than the other 2 browsers I have in Lucid.
Seamonkey v2.4 (This one worries me, failed auto update says "Something trying to trick accepting insecure update.... seek help")
Firefox v45

Just curious, what the difference between these two? My laptop is sse2 capable.
palemoon-27.9.4-p4-glibc219tweak.pet
palemoon-27.9.4-p4-sse-glibc219tweak.pet

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#7 Post by watchdog »

dcung wrote: Just curious, what the difference between these two? My laptop is sse2 capable.
palemoon-27.9.4-p4-glibc219tweak.pet
palemoon-27.9.4-p4-sse-glibc219tweak.pet
The second pet is for only SSE CPUs (older hardware). You said that your CPU is SSE2 and so the first pet performs better and uses more advanced feautures of the CPU.

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#8 Post by dcung »

watchdog wrote:The second pet is for only SSE CPUs (older hardware). You said that your CPU is SSE2 and so the first pet performs better and uses more advanced feautures of the CPU.
OK. Cheers.

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#9 Post by Mike Walsh »

Hi, dcung.
dcung wrote:As you said, Lucid has older stuff, and harder for me to get around. Still working on getting a decent browser for it. Trying to install Palemoon as you suggested. I suppose I'll need to find Palemoon PET from somewhere?
Amongst about a dozen others, I run rerwin's Lucid 5.2.8.7 sulu-002 myself. But I'll let ya into a wee secret. I don't use Lucid for anything that I would call 'serious'; I have other, more modern Pups for that.

I 'play' with Lucid. I mess around with it, and have a lot of fun. I run Chrome 26 in it; the 'latest' Chrome that'll actually work with it. I can listen to streaming radio with it, because even a Chrome of that vintage (42 releases out-of-date..!) will still work with the latest PepperFlash.....and Radiotunes still insist on FlashPlayer.

It reminds me of why I fell in love with Chrome originally. Lightweight, lightning-fast, and soooo responsive. Released way before Chrome started getting into the really 'heavy' security features.....and before it turned into such a RAM hog.

Horses for courses, really. With Lucid, so long as you accept the limitations of that ancient glibc, you can have a real ball with it! It's just a shame that battleshooter's glibc-2.20 'upgrade' he put together for Racy 5.5 doesn't work in Lucid. They both use the same vintage glibc, but with the 'upgrade' I can run the last 32-bit Linux Chrome in Racy, and watch NetFlix on it. There must be some other stuff 'missing', or too old in Lucid, because the 'upgrade' allows me to run other, newer stuff in Lucid.....just not Chrome.

(*shrug*)


Mike. :wink:

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firefox-61.0.1-en_US-x86-p571 works on Quirky Computer

#10 Post by mikeslr »

Hi watchdog,

I have a Lenovo T420 which has some quirks. Among them are that under Tahrpup 32-bit while Youtube videos would play with sound running Seamonkey and even old google-chrome 48, sound was not produced using fredx181's firefox-quantum. As an alternative to going crazy trying to figure out why not* --fred's worked fine on other computers-- I tried your pet. I'm happy to report that it functions as it should.

mikesLr

* Actually, I had already tried various other firefox versions which didn't produce sound. The publication of your pet was serendipitous, saving me the trouble of trying out different kernels and hunting for a multi-sound-card app. Didn't think the latter would help since sound was produced with other web-browsers. But, you never really know until you try.

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#11 Post by watchdog »

My pet at:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 552#999552

is not intended for tahr and more recent puppies. It works for slacko 5.7 and precise 5.7.1 which require libdbus upgrade to run the latest firefox. But if you install my pet in tahr then you can remove /lib/libdbus-1.so.3 and symlink again it to the libdbus of tahr. In slacko 5.7 the original libdbus is in /usr/lib but installing my pet the installed libdbus in /lib has priority.

EDIT: you can use in recent puppies which do not require libdbus upgrade the following pet.

firefox-61.0.1-en_US-x86.pet:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1W8dvPX ... sp=sharing

firefox-61.0.2-en_US-x86_64.pet:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1203OAq ... sp=sharing

They have gz compression for more compatibility.

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Gracias

#12 Post by RafaelCCA »

Gracias!

Descargue e instale; también instale el gtk3 y listo!.
Todo perfecto, un poquito pesado pero funciona bien.

Saludos.

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