We as Germans have been taught the importance of privacy and freedom of speech the hard way: Constantly monitored by the Stasi – which at that time largely depended on neighbors spying on each other – people in East Germany were constantly self-censoring what they were saying, oftentimes even what they were thinking. Today state surveillance on the Internet is much worse: Secret Services – but also malicious attackers – can easily copy our entire Internet traffic seeing what websites we visit, what emails we write.
Source : https://tutanota.com/blog/posts/end-mass-surveillance
Back then people were afraid to be spied on. How come now people are so eager to share every bit of information about themselves online?
Is it a sense of being nobody, so people have the urge to let everyone know about what they think, what they do, every hour, even every minute
of their life?
It is the new norm. But a silly one.
Further reading :
https://tutanota.com/blog/posts/surveillance
Stasi would have loved online surveillance
Stasi would have loved online surveillance
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Re: Stasi would have loved online surveillance
Something of which I have become aware recently....labbe5 wrote:Is it a sense of being nobody...
Am I right or wrong?
People are normally referred to as "that" [a thing] rather than "who" [a person].
e.g.
Fred Blogs, that was...
Rather than...
Fred Blogs, who was.
Or....
Certain people, that were...
Rather than...
Certain people, who were...
I came to the conclusion that our masters want us to begin thinking of ourselves as THINGS rather than persons.
He who controls the language [and history] controls our thoughts/beliefs.
I think most people assume that the main purpose data is being collected about them online, is to learn about their behavior so companies are able to sell their stuff to you more effectively.
So they do not have the feeling their behavior is being modified (eventhough it is), but rather that companies will modify their behavior towards them.
What they fail to understand, is that in this day and age, a political candidate, or an opinion, can be treated as a product that is to be sold to people just as much as a new coffeemaker would be.
Also, if you control the maze, you can make the mouse run in any direction you choose.
So they do not have the feeling their behavior is being modified (eventhough it is), but rather that companies will modify their behavior towards them.
What they fail to understand, is that in this day and age, a political candidate, or an opinion, can be treated as a product that is to be sold to people just as much as a new coffeemaker would be.
Also, if you control the maze, you can make the mouse run in any direction you choose.
Most humans seem to have an inate desire to be part of a group, or community - and generally put "belonging" ahead of "truth".
This is how Nazi Gernamy came to be so powerful and evil - individuals could not stop it because the cohesive nature of society prevented individuals from standing up and standing out.
A similar phenomenon occurred with Galileo - he knew that the earth orbited around the sun and published his views - however the Catholic church had "educated" the rest of society to believe that the sun circled the earth and as a result Galileo was ridiculed and threatened with prison for expressing his views.
Our leaders today seem intent on encouraging "community minded" people who will do anything to be part of the group and mindlessly do whatever they are told. Being on Facebook proves that you want to be part of the group. Accepting compulsory vaccination schedules proves that you dare not stand against authority. Allowing the government to read your emails is acceptable because you "have nothing to hide".
It is an attitude I do not understand. But I think this "loss of individuality" is as deeply ingrained in humans as "flocking" is in migratory birds.
Safety in numbers.
It is easier to mindlessly follow the herd than to think deeply and stand up for what is right or true.
This is how Nazi Gernamy came to be so powerful and evil - individuals could not stop it because the cohesive nature of society prevented individuals from standing up and standing out.
A similar phenomenon occurred with Galileo - he knew that the earth orbited around the sun and published his views - however the Catholic church had "educated" the rest of society to believe that the sun circled the earth and as a result Galileo was ridiculed and threatened with prison for expressing his views.
Our leaders today seem intent on encouraging "community minded" people who will do anything to be part of the group and mindlessly do whatever they are told. Being on Facebook proves that you want to be part of the group. Accepting compulsory vaccination schedules proves that you dare not stand against authority. Allowing the government to read your emails is acceptable because you "have nothing to hide".
It is an attitude I do not understand. But I think this "loss of individuality" is as deeply ingrained in humans as "flocking" is in migratory birds.
Safety in numbers.
It is easier to mindlessly follow the herd than to think deeply and stand up for what is right or true.
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That desire of being part of a group, or community has reached a level in Germany where people do spy against each others. Our comment sections in the forums do have a button -which I call the Ho-Chi-Min-Button- to report alleged violations of forum rules.
No matter how hard are the facts within such Comments: the red-green fascist in Germany clicks the Ho-Chi-Min-Button and the your comment is almost immediately removed. Along with that removal the commentator receives a warning to being locked out of the forum next time.
They never checked the contents of such comments to be removed. Clicking the Ho-Chi-Min-Button is all what's needed.
Thanks to Google, Facebook, Twitter etc., the digital Panopticon already has been established...
No matter how hard are the facts within such Comments: the red-green fascist in Germany clicks the Ho-Chi-Min-Button and the your comment is almost immediately removed. Along with that removal the commentator receives a warning to being locked out of the forum next time.
They never checked the contents of such comments to be removed. Clicking the Ho-Chi-Min-Button is all what's needed.
Thanks to Google, Facebook, Twitter etc., the digital Panopticon already has been established...
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The spying-on-neighbours-thing goes on in Germany again.
The Forces of Evil (FOE) invented "Demokratieberaterinnen", democracy advisors , in the part of Germany which was GDR, who are members of the "Landfrauenverband", who snoop in their community for dissidents, they told it in propaganda media.
The main protestant church invented "Lampendreher", who are disguised as helpers, and are to invade the privacy of elderly people, and take "a look at them", in the city of Bremen.
THEY want to make postmen ring every day at the doors of elderly people to control them. It 's disguised as "help", too, in Bremen.
Wenn der Postmann zweimal klingelt...
THEY are after vulnerable people.
And I assume, THEY let mentally disabled people move into houses together with "normal" people, because the wardens of the mentally disabled people then gain some "authority" over the "normal" ones and thus the "normal" people are degraded.
Regards
Bernhardiner
The Forces of Evil (FOE) invented "Demokratieberaterinnen", democracy advisors , in the part of Germany which was GDR, who are members of the "Landfrauenverband", who snoop in their community for dissidents, they told it in propaganda media.
The main protestant church invented "Lampendreher", who are disguised as helpers, and are to invade the privacy of elderly people, and take "a look at them", in the city of Bremen.
THEY want to make postmen ring every day at the doors of elderly people to control them. It 's disguised as "help", too, in Bremen.
Wenn der Postmann zweimal klingelt...
THEY are after vulnerable people.
And I assume, THEY let mentally disabled people move into houses together with "normal" people, because the wardens of the mentally disabled people then gain some "authority" over the "normal" ones and thus the "normal" people are degraded.
Regards
Bernhardiner
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Really?
Democratic advisors?
Wow!
I love that idea of democratic advisors.
When do they plan to let them take place into the German Bundestag?
Which is the only place in Germany that needs democratic advisors in my humble opinion.
Since I don't own a TV or Radio for now appr. 10 years, I didn't heard of that funny idea until now. Need to check this later for additional information.
Democratic advisors?
Wow!
I love that idea of democratic advisors.
When do they plan to let them take place into the German Bundestag?
Which is the only place in Germany that needs democratic advisors in my humble opinion.
Since I don't own a TV or Radio for now appr. 10 years, I didn't heard of that funny idea until now. Need to check this later for additional information.
There are only systems, and despite that we may focus on some aspects which we've named politics, economics, social mores, and law, these are only parts of the whole by which we distribute power and resources. You can not alter any part of a system without that alteration having an effect on every other part of the system.
Each individual from the moment of birth seeks to find his or her place within an already existing system (albeit occasionally effecting a minor change in that system). That place is defined by how we see ourselves and how others see us or, at least, how we perceive that others see us.
Prior to the emergence of Capitalism, the recognized places were those within the social structures of family, community, trade and religious organizations. With the emergence of Capitalism [and despite the day-dream of Karl Marx, there being no evidence that an organization once founded will voluntary cease to exist, what we've referred to as Communism or Socialism are merely political structures whereby Capital --the concept we use to organize and distribute resources-- are primarily assigned to State or speaking more practically, those who have the power to define State actions] the individual has been both blessed and cursed. Blessed in the sense that as an individual he or she is considered to be the only legitimate object of legal and philosophical concern. Cursed in the sense that being one of 7 billion plus individuals, each just a bundle of energy to be used or discarded, he or she has little significance.
From the moment of birth, we all seek to be recognized as having significance. Law and ethics prevent us from experimenting with infants. But experiments with simians reveal that given the choice between feeding and being comforted, they will choose starvation. Children, if their effort to do what we consider right remains unrewarded by recognition --sometimes a smile is enough-- will choose to do what we consider wrong in order to receive recognition by way of punishment.
There was a time when speaking and writing were activities we engaged in to communicate information we thought would be significant to others, even if we were only communicating that we possessed that information. Today, however, the organs of communication are filled with Selfies and Tweets, each saying essentially the same thing: "i EXIST. I EXIST. I EXIST".
Life is a peculiar chemical capable of converting available energy into a form of energy which will sustain it, or can be stored as future sustenance. Among Life's earliest adaptions was the ability to make use of the energy stored by other Life forms. Two other adaptions quickly followed: physical walls to deter others from accessing stored energy; and concealment to obscur others from recognizing one's possession of energy. No matter how complex Lifeforms have become in their quest for energy and the steps they take to protect the energy they possess --and we Humans are, indeed, a rather complex life-form-- the strategy remains the same: acquire energy, store it and protect it.
Like the simian infant, however, many of us --perhaps most of us-- will choose recognition over physical needs. And some of us have adapted to acquire the energy stored by others.
mikesLr
Each individual from the moment of birth seeks to find his or her place within an already existing system (albeit occasionally effecting a minor change in that system). That place is defined by how we see ourselves and how others see us or, at least, how we perceive that others see us.
Prior to the emergence of Capitalism, the recognized places were those within the social structures of family, community, trade and religious organizations. With the emergence of Capitalism [and despite the day-dream of Karl Marx, there being no evidence that an organization once founded will voluntary cease to exist, what we've referred to as Communism or Socialism are merely political structures whereby Capital --the concept we use to organize and distribute resources-- are primarily assigned to State or speaking more practically, those who have the power to define State actions] the individual has been both blessed and cursed. Blessed in the sense that as an individual he or she is considered to be the only legitimate object of legal and philosophical concern. Cursed in the sense that being one of 7 billion plus individuals, each just a bundle of energy to be used or discarded, he or she has little significance.
From the moment of birth, we all seek to be recognized as having significance. Law and ethics prevent us from experimenting with infants. But experiments with simians reveal that given the choice between feeding and being comforted, they will choose starvation. Children, if their effort to do what we consider right remains unrewarded by recognition --sometimes a smile is enough-- will choose to do what we consider wrong in order to receive recognition by way of punishment.
There was a time when speaking and writing were activities we engaged in to communicate information we thought would be significant to others, even if we were only communicating that we possessed that information. Today, however, the organs of communication are filled with Selfies and Tweets, each saying essentially the same thing: "i EXIST. I EXIST. I EXIST".
Life is a peculiar chemical capable of converting available energy into a form of energy which will sustain it, or can be stored as future sustenance. Among Life's earliest adaptions was the ability to make use of the energy stored by other Life forms. Two other adaptions quickly followed: physical walls to deter others from accessing stored energy; and concealment to obscur others from recognizing one's possession of energy. No matter how complex Lifeforms have become in their quest for energy and the steps they take to protect the energy they possess --and we Humans are, indeed, a rather complex life-form-- the strategy remains the same: acquire energy, store it and protect it.
Like the simian infant, however, many of us --perhaps most of us-- will choose recognition over physical needs. And some of us have adapted to acquire the energy stored by others.
mikesLr
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