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bigpup
PostPosted: Sun 10 Jun 2012, 20:11    Post subject:

If the person making a pet of Seamonkey or Firefox, does not deliberately turn off auto update, then it will be set on by default, when you install the pet.
Mozilla made auto update on the default setting in all of their browsers.
When you install the browser, the first thing it will do is run auto update and if update is found, it will install the update.
For Seamonkey or Firefox auto update settings can be changed in preferences.
(while I was changing the settings for auto update in Seamonkey, it was already downloading the update.)

Seamonkey preferences for auto update, when you first install the Lucid pet of Seamonkey:
majorfoo
PostPosted: Sun 10 Jun 2012, 20:01    Post subject:

playdayz wrote:
Quote:
Could you provide pet or sfs on the latest libreoffice?

The best thing I think I is to get 01micko's get_libreoffice 0.15 so you can continue to update yourself. It will not work with Lupu/Plus Libre however, since Libreoffice is already installed. Here is the thread -> http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=65918

Here is the 3.5.4 sfs -> http://diddywahdiddy.net/Puppy500/LibreOffice-3.5.4_en-US.sfs


Thanks for 3.54.sfs.
I d/l the " get_libreoffice-015.pet" and will use on future updates of libreoffice.

This new version is super fast and really enjoying it.

Again, thanks for your assistance. You are always Johnny-on-the-Spot, when I need something.
James C
PostPosted: Sun 10 Jun 2012, 19:38    Post subject:

FWIW, I've had no problems with SeaMonkey auto-updating to 2.10 or Firefox auto-updating to 13.0 in several full and frugal installs.
Still using a full install of lupu-libre 528.005 as my primary os.
playdayz
PostPosted: Sun 10 Jun 2012, 17:52    Post subject:

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Not sure what to do about them, especially as you seem to suggest letting them autoinstall to Lupuplus_libre is not a good idea. On one hand, it's surely good to have the latest security fixes, on the other, its preferable to have an installation specifically tested on lupu.

But given the rate of new security updates, I don't expect you could possibly create pets for each them. There seem to have been nine in the past nine months...

I would have just called those the regular SM updates. We did have pets for most of them. The auto update did seem to work OK for me from 2.9 to 2.10. I might suggest installing the 2.10 pet and then watching next time it asks about updating.
otropogo
PostPosted: Sun 10 Jun 2012, 17:28    Post subject:

playdayz wrote:
Quote:
Thus my wonderment at Seamonkey upgrade pets for Lucid.

The pets I post contain the latest version of the full Seamonkey. One could uninstall any previous version and then install the new pet. Anyway, I think the safest is to use the Lucid pets. If you got a 3.6MB update from Lucid that would have been a bad download. And I just checked--the Seamonkey update from 2.9 to 2.10 is 21MB, so I am thinking any 3.6MB update would have been a bad download--and so far the SM update looks OK.


You're right about the size. I've just checked the archived SM2.1 file I downloaded, and it's 22MB.

I would certainly have used your pet, had I known about it. Unfortunately, I've been preoccupied lately, and once you've failed to log onto the forums for a few consecutive days, the notices of new posts stop coming to remind you...

One concern I have about these automatic upgrades is that in the past, I've lost all my passwords and had to reconstitute them. More rarely, my bookmarks have been lost in the course of one of these upgrades too.

And they definitely are automatic. I remember quite clearly creating a directory, saving the 2.1 release notes and uninstall_install pages, then clicking on the download tab, seeing the browser's options to open the archive and choosing instead to save the file to disk.

And indeed, the archive is in the new directory, unopened, with the two html pages. No prompt to install the new version ever displayed on my system, yet here it is...

Help/About Seamonkey displays:

Quote:
Seamonkey


version 2.10




You are currently on the release update channel.



Ouch! Have just discovered the explanation. Sometime in September or earlier (the updates history in Preferences/advanced/installation ends there), when I was still running Lucid 5.2.8_x, there was a security update 2.4.1.

Apparently it, or a previous installation/update, reset my installation preferences, setting all Seamonkey and add-on upgrades and installations to 'automatic'. I know I've never opened this window before, didn't even know about it. So it must have become a default setting in some version of SM. Very disturbing...

The update history shows the automatic installation of SM 'security updates' 2.41, 2.5, 2.6.1, 2.7, 2.7.1, 2.7.2, 2.9, 2.9.1, and 2.10.

I've now unchecked the add-on 'download and install' options, and also the
update ones, but left the option to 'check daily' for updates checked.

Not sure what to do about them, especially as you seem to suggest letting them autoinstall to Lupuplus_libre is not a good idea. On one hand, it's surely good to have the latest security fixes, on the other, its preferable to have an installation specifically tested on lupu.

But given the rate of new security updates, I don't expect you could possibly create pets for each them. There seem to have been nine in the past nine months...
playdayz
PostPosted: Sun 10 Jun 2012, 16:33    Post subject:

Quote:
Thus my wonderment at Seamonkey upgrade pets for Lucid.

The pets I post contain the latest version of the full Seamonkey. One could uninstall any previous version and then install the new pet. Anyway, I think the safest is to use the Lucid pets. If you got a 3.6MB update from Lucid that would have been a bad download. And I just checked--the Seamonkey update from 2.9 to 2.10 is 21MB, so I am thinking any 3.6MB update would have been a bad download--and so far the SM update looks OK.
otropogo
PostPosted: Sun 10 Jun 2012, 15:56    Post subject: Unprompted Seamonkey upgrade
Subject description: Seamonkey 2.1 installs itself without asking on lupuplus_libre

playdayz wrote:
Firefox 13 for Lucid

http://diddywahdiddy.net/Puppy500/Firefox-13-Lucid.pet

Seamonkey 2.10 for Lucid

http://diddywahdiddy.net/Puppy500/Seakonkey-2.10-Lucid.pet


A couple of days ago I opened Seamonkey in lupuplus_libre and instead of seeing the blank page specified in my preferences setting, saw displayed a page of the Seamonkey website showing the features of SM 2.1.

(I should add that this has happened to me before, under Lupu5.2.8_x).

I downloaded the 3.6?MB file to my hard drive, but did nothing else with it, not even extraction, as I wanted to study the features and perhaps read some reviews before deciding to upgrade. However, all this caution proved to be futile.

Soon I started experiencing annoying changes in the browser display, some extremely annoying, such as the irretrievable loss of the tool bar and navigation bar on some pages. In one case I lost all control of the system, including the use of CTL-ALT-DEL to shut down, and had to do a hard power down. And the changes survived the reboot!

Eventually, by trial and error,clicking on various parts of the screen, I discovered I could summon a menu to regain some control and recovered the navigation bar and the tool bar. At that point I clicked on the help tab and discovered that Seamonkey 2.1 was running. Evidently, it had installed itself over the previous version without waiting for any input from me...

Thus my wonderment at Seamonkey upgrade pets for Lucid.

Am I the only user of Lupu5.2.8-x (because the same thing has happened to me with it) or lupuplus_libre to experience this automatic upgrade of Seamonkey?
playdayz
PostPosted: Sun 10 Jun 2012, 15:35    Post subject:

Quote:
Could you provide pet or sfs on the latest libreoffice?

The best thing I think I is to get 01micko's get_libreoffice 0.15 so you can continue to update yourself. It will not work with Lupu/Plus Libre however, since Libreoffice is already installed. Here is the thread -> http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=65918

Here is the 3.5.4 sfs -> http://diddywahdiddy.net/Puppy500/LibreOffice-3.5.4_en-US.sfs
cowboy
PostPosted: Sun 10 Jun 2012, 10:28    Post subject: openoffice redux

majorfoo,

As an aside, did you note that 01micko has compiled the new Openoffice 3.4 for both Lucid and Slacko:

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=78709

Haven't tried the new Ooo yet, but it's good to know that the project has escaped from Oracle, and that Apache is moving forward with new code.
majorfoo
PostPosted: Sun 10 Jun 2012, 07:49    Post subject:

playdayz wrote:
Quote:
LibreOffice 3.5.4 is the fastest version of the best free office suite ever, with up to 100% performance gains when opening large files (depending on operating system, hardware configuration and file contents).

Majorfoo, Good news indeed. Thanks.



Could you provide pet or sfs on the latest libreoffice?
This could be used now in lieu of updated versions of lucid/libreoffice.

thanks
majorfoo
playdayz
PostPosted: Sat 09 Jun 2012, 18:54    Post subject:

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The ever moving target URL for "Adobe Flash Player". They have changed it again, so need the new version of "GetFlash install Flashplayer" so Getflash will work.
getflash-1.1
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=74491

Sure enough. Thanks to shinobar and Bigpup for catching it. It makes me feel better about using Google Chrome (which has flashplayer built-in) -> http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=630570#630570
bigpup
PostPosted: Sat 09 Jun 2012, 13:07    Post subject:

Must have update for "GetFlash install Flashplayer".

The ever moving target URL for "Adobe Flash Player". They have changed it again, so need the new version of "GetFlash install Flashplayer" so Getflash will work.
getflash-1.1
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=74491
bigpup
PostPosted: Sat 09 Jun 2012, 02:30    Post subject:

Program updates:

Pmusic 2.6.2
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=31206

Pburn 3.6.0
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=23881
Make sure to check required dependency files list. Some new features require additional files.
666philb
PostPosted: Fri 08 Jun 2012, 17:56    Post subject:

lucid puppy is the only puppy that works with my acer aspire one 722
gcmartin
PostPosted: Fri 08 Jun 2012, 16:21    Post subject:

playdayz wrote:
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i bought a new acer aspire 4830z. but it's no sound
Brand new computers can be a problem for Lucid. If a little tinkering doesn't help, as Bigpup suggests, then it may be a driver issue. If so, then a newer Puppy would be the answer.
I would recommend either of the 4 following distros (all of these, save 1, are "beta", but function well with excellent performance and stability on new PCs)
  1. 64bit
  2. 32bit
And, there are others (like Exprimo, etc.) in Puppyland, as well.

My definition on "full feature" relates to their ability to support newer (since 2006) technology in the LAN, OOTB, and full-featured Office offering built-in with JAVA.

Here to help
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