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recobayu
PostPosted: Thu 07 Jun 2012, 02:58    Post subject: sound and webcam laptop acer aspire 4830z

hi everyone, i'm sorry to ask you all.
yesterday i bought a new acer aspire 4830z. but it's no sound and lupu can't detect my webcam when i open my guvcview.
in my experience, lupu 528 is more stable than other puppy.
dpup and slacko can handle my sound, but sometimes my screen going to black.
can anyone tell me how to get sound and webcam in lupu 528 in my acer aspire 4830?

thanks.
mikeslr
PostPosted: Thu 07 Jun 2012, 00:03    Post subject: Saluki -- Just to clear the record

@ sunburnt,

I don't know about Saluki022 which jemimah labeled experimental. I'm still running 021. Although the ISO is 130 megs, if you exclude adrive and the files needed to boot from a CD the rest is shy of 87 megs.
And while I agree with you in preferring self-contained SFSes*, I am unaware of any Saluki pet which conflicts with any other Saluki pet. Consequently, I don't know of any way an SFS built from Saluki pets will conflict with any other SFS built from Saluki pets.

* I prefer what Playdaz referred to as "Program Folders" a couple of years back, since they are "self-contained".

mikesLr
don570
PostPosted: Wed 06 Jun 2012, 19:30    Post subject:

To Playdayz


Make sure you update Lucid Puppy to Puppy Backup

It has more features than pmirror

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=77685
playdayz
PostPosted: Wed 06 Jun 2012, 19:24    Post subject:

Firefox 13 for Lucid

http://diddywahdiddy.net/Puppy500/Firefox-13-Lucid.pet

Seamonkey 2.10 for Lucid

http://diddywahdiddy.net/Puppy500/Seakonkey-2.10-Lucid.pet
sunburnt
PostPosted: Tue 05 Jun 2012, 13:54    Post subject:

At 137 MB it doesn`t seem to be what I`m talking about, not bare bones at all.
I tried to download it, but the page was blank, maybe I`ll try again.

Using SFS files still has the legacy package problem of lib. conflicts.
That`s what`s so nice about self-contained apps., they live in a sand box.
mikeslr
PostPosted: Tue 05 Jun 2012, 10:38    Post subject: The Saluki Way

Actually smokey01, the Saluki way is more elegant. Its ISO contains a core module and an adrive. The adrive contains a few light apps usually found in Puppy. Saluki will load the adrive if it finds it, but if you didn't copy it from the ISO, or remove it from Saluki's directory, Saluki boots as, essentially, a "Barebones" Puppy with two additional great apps. One is a "Custom-Builder" by which you can create your own adrive using the pets found in Saluki's repo and your own. The other is an SFS Builder. I haven't used it, but believe it works the same way as "Custom-Builder." During its build process Custom-Builder performs checks for dependencies and libs and will download them. So if you limit yourself to the pets in Saluki's repo you're not likely to end up with non-functional applications. Custom-builder also allows you to "remaster" the entire Puplet, including changing its kernel. The result is that you end up with a Puplet just the way you want it, containing as little or as much as you want.

I can only marvel at jemimah's genius and hope that other devs examine the code she used to create Custom-builder and adapt it to future Puppies. That said, for some reason, Playdaz's most recent incarnation of Lupu remains the Puppy I almost always boot into. Maybe its because I prefer openbox-fbpanel-DaveS's-Launcher and desktop-drive-icons as an interface to Saluki's Xfce.

mikesLr
smokey01
PostPosted: Tue 05 Jun 2012, 04:41    Post subject:

sunburnt that sound like the saluki way.
sunburnt
PostPosted: Mon 04 Jun 2012, 19:41    Post subject:

bigpup; And simplify simplify! It`s been repeated that Puppy`s too bloated.
And TinyCore is too spartan, a happy medium here folks?

Remove everything except Puppy scripts and apps., geany, rxvt, gparted, etc.
Put everything else in SFS files, singles and like groups of apps.
The main groups would be: media, business, graphics, web, and games.

So a smaller download and no bloat, with lots of apps. in SFS files.
bigpup
PostPosted: Sun 03 Jun 2012, 17:39    Post subject:

Playdayz,

From Barry's blog:

Quote:
When the Raspberry Pi does arrive, I will most likely switch over to working intensely on porting Puppy to it.

Which means that the x86 Precise Puppy will languish.


Sure seems, Barry could use a developer, of Puppy versions, to take over development of Precise Puppy.
http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=02856
Precise Puppy, being based on Ubuntu Precise Pangolin, sure seems like the next logical bath for Lucid Puppy.
Sure would be nice to have all the good features of Lucid 528.005 in a newer Ubuntu based Puppy.
I am sure others would help Very Happy
stu90
PostPosted: Sun 03 Jun 2012, 12:53    Post subject:

jim3630 wrote:


@stu90

went to 5x14 right click on /etherape extract all debs in folder and it did just that under /etherape creating /etherape/extracted-debs/user /etherape/extracted-debsvar but did not install the working program.

besides not getting these methods to work just don't get what is the difference between clicking on debs one by one and the other way?
thanks jim

Hi Jim3630
Yes that is the correct procedure - all the indavidual .deb files will be extracted into the extracted-debs directory you then rename the extracted-debs directory to the application name-version and use the dir2pet right click menu option to turn that directory and its content into a single .pet and then install.

The benefit of this is you are not having to deal with the install / uninstall of lots of individual .deb packages instead you have just the one .pet
playdayz
PostPosted: Sat 02 Jun 2012, 22:44    Post subject:

Quote:
LibreOffice 3.5.4 is the fastest version of the best free office suite ever, with up to 100% performance gains when opening large files (depending on operating system, hardware configuration and file contents).

Majorfoo, Good news indeed. Thanks.
majorfoo
PostPosted: Sat 02 Jun 2012, 22:13    Post subject: Libre Office 3.54

Playdayz

I downloaded libre office office 3.54 for windows today and was surprised how fast it loads. If check their website, they claim 3.54 and higher will be much, much faster.

You might want to check this out for the lucid/lupu versions where you have libre-office as option

FYI
Karl Godt
PostPosted: Sat 02 Jun 2012, 20:15    Post subject:

funny :

bash-3.2# head /bin/undeb

Code:
#!/bin/sh
exec dpkg-deb -x "$@" .

Very Happy
playdayz
PostPosted: Sat 02 Jun 2012, 20:13    Post subject:

Quote:
@playdayz

the Code:
for file in *
do
undeb $file
done

that did unpacked the 4 files in two directors under /etherape but did not install the program and could not run. it is kind of a fun program and used it before in puppy.

Yes, all it does it place them into a directory. I then use them to build the pet I want and use dir2pet to make that into a pet. For instance, I would use /etherape as the base directory of the pet and tat would include /usr and whatever other directories were necessary. I would put all files into the appropriate directories and then buld the pet with the command dir2pet ethrape.
jim3630
PostPosted: Sat 02 Jun 2012, 19:57    Post subject:

Karl Godt wrote:
jim3630 wrote:
playdayz wrote:
There is an option in PPM to download all of the dependencies--to make the packages in the Lucid repo I did that and then "undebed" and combined them so that they could all be installed at once.


playdayz

i wonder. you download all dependencies by selecting that option, but not installed. then how do you "undebed" them and combine to install at once?

i download all dependencies and selected not to install them so to save in a separate partition then install the debs one by one and can reuse them again if needed. i didn't know there is a way other than installing one at a time.
thanks lost in the desert jim

Jim : Open them with xarchive. Xarchive will install them to ./usr, ./etc etc in the current directory . If you create a mainfolder like application-version also possible in xarchive and let xarchive install them to ./application-version/usr etc ..
Another way is the "dpkg --help" binary or busybox applet " busybox dpkg-deb -x " application-version.deb .
Code:
FULLPKG=`basename ${FULLPKGNAME} .deb`
mkdir -p /tmp/${FULLPKG}
dpkg-deb -x ${FULLPKGNAME} /tmp/${FULLPKG}


hi Karl

tried xarchive either to open or multi-extract.

in /etherape 4 files etherape ubuntu deb and three other dependency debs.

got error
cp: omitting directory `/root/etherape'

and
error
xz: /tmp/xa-t5K7Eu/etherape_0.9.8-1+squeeze1_i386.deb: File format not recognized

@playdayz

the Code:
for file in *
do
undeb $file
done

that did unpacked the 4 files in two directors under /etherape but did not install the program and could not run. it is kind of a fun program and used it before in puppy.

@stu90

went to 5x14 right click on /etherape extract all debs in folder and it did just that under /etherape creating /etherape/extracted-debs/user /etherape/extracted-debsvar but did not install the working program.

besides not getting these methods to work just don't get what is the difference between clicking on debs one by one and the other way?
thanks jim
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