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greengeek
PostPosted: Fri 22 Jun 2012, 16:59    Post subject:

futwerk wrote:
a few backgrounds.
Hi futwerk, I downloaded the third one of these backgrounds and used mtPaint to "invert" the colours. It looked really neat, and might be handy when icons are harder to see against a dark background.
ETP
PostPosted: Fri 22 Jun 2012, 14:26    Post subject:

Otropogo/Greengeek

FYI both Chrome & Chromium retain page level zoom info even when the cache etc are cleared. This of course means that they retain data on both domains & pages visited.
IE8 seems o/k but I suspect that this is common with modern browsers.

For anyone wanting to test their browser:

1. Copy the address at the top of this page then zoom in to an insane level. Shocked
2. Take whatever action is necessary to clear the cache/history/cookies etc in your browser & then exit it.
3. Re-launch your browser and paste the address you copied into the address bar and visit it. If it is still large data is being retained and computer forensic scientists can rest easy in their beds. Laughing

(This is getting a bit off topic)
greengeek
PostPosted: Fri 22 Jun 2012, 03:28    Post subject:

otropogo wrote:
I've been running with every box but one ticked in the "clear private data" menu, and yet I've got over five hundred domain names still listed in data manager. That's a lot of clicking to "forget" until the next time. Because as soon as you go back to one of the domains you've clicked "forget', it's back on the list...
Yes, it's rather disturbing that the domains appear on the list without any user intervention requesting special "remembering" of anything to do with that domain. I understand if a cookie gets "remembered" - at least I can clear those (or set the browser to reject all cookies anyway). But who decided that these domains should be retained in Data Manager?????

I'm glad you uncovered this flaw. Googling "data manager" suggests that early Seamonkeys should be free of this issue.
otropogo
PostPosted: Fri 22 Jun 2012, 01:40    Post subject:

greengeek wrote:
otropogo wrote:
At the bottom of the page I see a "remove" tab, but it's greyed out.

What use is clearing your history if every domain you've visited is shown and can't be removed?

I just looked at a different version of Seamonkey in my Slacko install, and tried to get rid of the data manager domain list by ticking the "clear private data" boxes one at a time. Each tick box would get rid of SOME of the listed domains, but even combining ALL of the tickboxes did not get rid of all the sites from the data manager list.

Then I found I can right-click those domain names in the data manager list, and it allows me to "forget about this domain" and implies that the info is stored because of "content preferences" that lets Seamonkey remember "zoom levels for each site" etc etc.

As you say, this is rather unsettling.


I've been running with every box but one ticked in the "clear private data" menu, and yet I've got over five hundred domain names still listed in data manager. That's a lot of clicking to "forget" until the next time.

Because as soon as you go back to one of the domains you've clicked "forget', it's back on the list...
futwerk
PostPosted: Thu 21 Jun 2012, 18:42    Post subject:

a few backgrounds.
greengeek
PostPosted: Wed 20 Jun 2012, 16:11    Post subject:

otropogo wrote:
At the bottom of the page I see a "remove" tab, but it's greyed out.

What use is clearing your history if every domain you've visited is shown and can't be removed?

I just looked at a different version of Seamonkey in my Slacko install, and tried to get rid of the data manager domain list by ticking the "clear private data" boxes one at a time. Each tick box would get rid of SOME of the listed domains, but even combining ALL of the tickboxes did not get rid of all the sites from the data manager list.

Then I found I can right-click those domain names in the data manager list, and it allows me to "forget about this domain" and implies that the info is stored because of "content preferences" that lets Seamonkey remember "zoom levels for each site" etc etc.

As you say, this is rather unsettling.
nooby
PostPosted: Wed 20 Jun 2012, 16:04    Post subject:

So this is SeaMonkey. Can one find same such directory
in FireFox too? If one have both SM and FF would then SM
save such info even if one only used FF and never activated
SM? I mean both being mozilla. Maybe I am too naive.
greengeek
PostPosted: Wed 20 Jun 2012, 15:55    Post subject:

otropogo wrote:
So I was dumbfounded when I happened to open the tab:

Tools/Data Manager

to see a list of domains that seems to include most, if not all, of the sites I've visited over the past several years!

Thanks for the tip. I just checked the data manager and can see the same massive history stored there.

So I then went to Tools / Clear private data and ticked every possible box and cleared them all, then went back into data manager and everything was gone, except there was an entry for “getpersonas.com” which seems to be something to do with a Firefox plugin or something???????

This is a bit disturbing.

And it seems that I cannot permanently set those tickboxes in the "Clear private data" function. It goes back to retaining the data manager list again every time.
otropogo
PostPosted: Wed 20 Jun 2012, 00:46    Post subject:

bigpup wrote:
...
User profiles is found under tools->switch profile and tools->switch profile->manage profiles button.


Thanks,

Nothing there though to explain the unruly autoinstall behavior. There's only one profile listed - 'default'.

I found something rather more unsettling yesterday though.

For some years now I've had Seamonkey set to delete browsing history when shutting down, as well as most other residues of online activity.

So I was dumbfounded when I happened to open the tab:

Tools/Data Manager

to see a list of domains that seems to include most, if not all, of the sites I've visited over the past several years!

At the bottom of the page I see a "remove" tab, but it's greyed out.

What use is clearing your history if every domain you've visited is shown and can't be removed?

Do other browsers have this same function?
rcrsn51
PostPosted: Tue 19 Jun 2012, 07:58    Post subject:

kevin bowers wrote:
Certainly much better, but not as sharp as the page looks as it comes out of a decent printer.

That's comparing apples to oranges. The true test is to print the PDF and compare to the original document.
Quote:
What resolution did you scan it with?
300dpi.

greengeek wrote:
I spent hours last weekend scanning CV documents and was really not happy with the outcome. Now I see the docs are actually fine after all.

Same here. In fact, I could convert the PDF back into a graphic and all the resolution was still there.
greengeek
PostPosted: Tue 19 Jun 2012, 03:27    Post subject:

rcrsn51 wrote:
Then install the attached epdfview_lupu-0.1.8.pet and repeat.

Excellent; that makes a huge difference. Thanks. I spent hours last weekend scanning CV documents and was really not happy with the outcome. Now I see the docs are actually fine after all.
kevin bowers
PostPosted: Mon 18 Jun 2012, 22:17    Post subject:

rcrsn51 wrote:
Epdfview 0.1.7 in Lupu does a poor job of rendering some scanned documents. As an example, download the attached "scanner.pdf.gz", remove the dummy .gz extension and open it in Epdfview.

Then install the attached epdfview_lupu-0.1.8.pet and repeat.


Certainly much better, but not as sharp as the page looks as it comes out of a decent printer. What resolution did you scan it with?
rcrsn51
PostPosted: Mon 18 Jun 2012, 20:11    Post subject:

Epdfview 0.1.7 in Lupu does a poor job of rendering some scanned documents. As an example, download the attached "scanner.pdf.gz", remove the dummy .gz extension and open it in Epdfview.

Then install the attached epdfview_lupu-0.1.8.pet and repeat.
bigpup
PostPosted: Mon 18 Jun 2012, 16:50    Post subject:

I am not sure how user profiles would effect auto update. Just something to consider. Did not look that deep into Seamonkey documentation to see.
You would think that what ever update to Seamonkey was done, it would be for Seamonkey in general.
Just an idea, that maybe, all user profiles had to have auto update turned off for it to not work.
User profiles is found under tools->switch profile and tools->switch profile->manage profiles button.
otropogo
PostPosted: Mon 18 Jun 2012, 05:16    Post subject:

bigpup wrote:
otropogo,

Are you by any chance using more than one user profile in Seamonkey? I read a statement that said the preference settings where for specific user profiles. Each one had to have preferences setup specific to it.


Not that I know of. I don't recall ever creating one.

How would you tell if you had more than one user profile?

But even if there were more than one user profile, surely you couldn't have one that allows automatic updates, and a second that doesn't. How would that work? Each user would have to have his own browser and they'd end up with different versions.
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