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tony
PostPosted: Fri 12 Oct 2012, 17:47    Post subject:

Hi,

I have just booted debian squeeze 5 with kernel 3.2.9 and slacko 5.3.6.0 with kernel 3.5.5.PAE.

i use grub4dos installed on the "My passport" USB3 drive and boot straight from my Asus 1015pem.

I guess that as lupu_528.sfs is not seen it would be pointless to put a USB3 driver in it.

Regards Tony.
rerwin
PostPosted: Fri 12 Oct 2012, 14:37    Post subject: Re: USB3 boot

tony wrote:
Yesterday I tried to use it to boot a My Passport USB3 drive.
No luck, after loading the drivers it could not find lupu_528.sfs file.
However if I plug the drive into a USB2 port it works OK.
Can we modify initrd.gz to include a USB3 driver?
Tony & darkcity,
What drivers did you load that resulted in the "missing" lupu_528.sfs file? Wouldn't you have to be up already to load them? Or do you mean you installed them from a pet package or some other source and then rebooted?

The USB3 driver, xhci.ko is already in the "plus" versions of lupu528, although not in the initrd.gz file AFAIK. But I would like to work on this problem. Although I am not fit to mess with the initrd file, there may be another way to improve the situation.

1. Since initrd functions only at boot-up time, what happens if you plug the drive in after booting up? I wonder if the "hotplug" function would detect the drive.

2. Another thing to try is to add "modprobe xhci" to the file, /etc/rc.d/rc.local. Check first, though, with "lsmod" to see whether xhci got loaded automatically since the USB3 hardware exists.

3. My thinking is that the USB drivers get loaded very early by rc.sysinit, so an update to it might make things work better. Please try the above to get an idea of whether updating rc.sysinit would help. Thanks.

BTW, do you know whether the drive can work through USB3 in wary or precise pups?
Richard
darkcity
PostPosted: Fri 12 Oct 2012, 12:47    Post subject:

Hi Tony,

there is a driver for USB3 in Puppy 5.2x here-
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=453853#453853

http://puppylinux.org/wikka/USB3
bigpup
PostPosted: Fri 12 Oct 2012, 12:43    Post subject:

otropogo,

From first post in topic:
Quote:
Notes: 1) If you have previously used the Lucid 5.2.8 Live CD, it may have copied the lupu_528.sfs file to your hard drive. When the new CD boots it will use that lupu_528.sfs without telling you, so you need to delete it from your drive, or rename it, before you boot the new CD. This will happen even if the lupu_528.sfs is in a directory. 2) If you use a frugal install,. a simple trick is to download the ISO, click it to open it, and copy the lupu_528.sfs into the directory that holds the frugal install, replacing the old one.



I do not think the splash screen got changed to reflect the different versions of Lucid528.

Booting from live CD:
If you have a previous version of lupu_528.sfs on computer it probably is being seen by boot process and being used.
Normally the name of the sfs file is different, so this is not an issue between different versions of Puppy. The different versions of Lucid 528 use the same name for the sfs file.
The different versions of Lucid 528 are only different by what additional programs may or may not be in them.
The idea was to pick the one that has the features you want and just use that one. All of them are the complete Lucid 528.

If you had different versions of Lucid 528, as frugal installs on the hard drive, with each one in a differently named directory.
The boot menu will have entry for each one.
You should be able to boot each specific version, because the boot process will look for a specific named directory, for the needed files, and not look any other place.
tony
PostPosted: Fri 12 Oct 2012, 09:02    Post subject: USB3 boot

Hi,

This version of puppy has worked well for me for many months.

Yesterday I tried to use it to boot a My Passport USB3 drive.

No luck, after loading the drivers it could not find lupu_528.sfs file.

However if I plug the drive into a USB2 port it works OK.

Can we modify initrd.gz to include a USB3 driver?

Regards Tony.
otropogo
PostPosted: Thu 11 Oct 2012, 02:41    Post subject: would the real 5.2.8.sfs stand up please?

I just booted lupupluslibre 528.005-2 from LiveCD for the first time, and am confused, as I have been since 5.2.8 has started proliferating versions.

The splash screen is, to my eyes at least, indistinguishable from earlier versions of lupuplus or even lupu5.2.8.

When shutting down after the first boot, I'm no longer asked whether I want to copy the sfs file to the hard drive, so when I boot the second time, I have no idea which sfs file is active. In fact, I don't know which one booted on the first run, since the loader gives no indication. I haven't known since upgrading to lupuplus some time ago, but my understanding (please correct me, if it's wrong) has been that when the loader runs, it looks on the hard drives first for the lupu_528.sfs file. And it boots with the first one it finds. If not, what would be the point of copying the sfs file to the hard drive?

Any clarification would be welcome.

And yes, I did boot with an existing 2fs file, as I don't really want to reconfigure every application I've got. But maybe I should have renamed all of the lupu_528.sfs files on the hard drive before booting the latest version? Would I have gotten the prompt to save the file to the hard drive, or is that something that only happens subsequent to the invitation to create a 2fs file?
whoguy
PostPosted: Wed 12 Sep 2012, 07:34    Post subject:

Thank you Larry for making a kick ass version of puppy... It has truly made my life better!!!

I'm saddened to hear of you and your wife's struggles with MS. I wish you and your family best of luck Playdayz!!!

Do you have a donate link or paypal where I can donate money?

Cheers

Whoguy
mavrothal
PostPosted: Tue 11 Sep 2012, 08:08    Post subject:

Hopefully your selfless and remarkable offerings to thousands of Puppy users will be somehow returned to you and your family.
Till then, lots of strength and best of luck.
James C
PostPosted: Tue 11 Sep 2012, 03:30    Post subject:

Best wishes and good luck to you and your family.You'll be in our thoughts.
oldyeller
PostPosted: Tue 11 Sep 2012, 03:28    Post subject:

Hi Larry,

I am very sorry to hear about your wife and the fight you are having to recieve treatment here.

Lupu 528 was the first puppy I used and is the first one I remastered on.

Well miss you here. Family is very important!!! May you and your family be blessed. Well keep you all in prayer.
arcanis
PostPosted: Mon 10 Sep 2012, 17:57    Post subject:

There's no way to repay you for what you've already done. Thank you doesn't really cover it.

But thank you is all I can say. I don't know if you have thought about it, but some of the work you and your team did on Lucid Puppy had a positive effect on the Puppies which have followed. You raised the bar,

And you made it possible to use Puppy all the time. I rarely use anything else. Even though I'm using Slacko right now, Lucid was the first Puppy I was able to use exclusively and preferentially for more than just surfing the Web and playing music...

Remember to keep yourself healthy and as much as possible rested. See if you can arrange a little 'me time' so you don't burn out. Home hospice may become a solution for getting away for a few hours...in future sometime.

We'll keep you in prayer. God bless.
pemasu
PostPosted: Mon 10 Sep 2012, 12:49    Post subject:

Life goes on with other priorities. Best wishes to you, to your wife and family. Remember to keep the optimistic attitude whatever life throws. I hope that your wife gets the best possible treatment.

I got the inspiration to the woof building through Lucid Puppies and they have given me hundreds of hours meaningful building and hobby also. Thank you of everything you have done. You have inspired us several years with your great work and coordinating skills.
666philb
PostPosted: Mon 10 Sep 2012, 12:23    Post subject:

all the best playdaze. i hope you manage to sort it all out. and thank you for making and maintaining what i consider to be the best puppy there is.

wish you and your family the best of luck

phil
jpeps
PostPosted: Sun 09 Sep 2012, 18:46    Post subject:

Hi Larry,

Let's all hope that some of these absurd issues around healthcare finally get properly addressed here in the US; they are well overdue. Meanwhile, best of luck to you.
cthisbear
PostPosted: Sun 09 Sep 2012, 18:30    Post subject:

Sorry to hear of your plight.

I echo all of the thoughts from sc0ttman and others.

Best of luck....Chris.
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