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kevin bowers
PostPosted: Tue 23 Aug 2011, 09:11    Post subject:

James C wrote:
Your obviously not getting the correct driver selected.... "nv" is the generic driver which doesn't support OpenGL. Have you tried the "choose" option and then picking "Nvidia"? Probe should work to choose the correct driver but evidently not in your case.
Just an idea. Smile

Bingo! I don't know why xorg didn't pick it before but the "choose" option worked, at least as far as Google Earth goes. Hardinfo still reports unknown under open GL, but as long as the functionality is there so what? Thanks all!
dejan555
PostPosted: Tue 23 Aug 2011, 08:28    Post subject:

Oops, I somehow missed that Embarassed
ICPUG
PostPosted: Tue 23 Aug 2011, 08:07    Post subject:

dejan555

If you read the 'more info' link pointed to by NoryB you will see that he says the installer works on Windows 95 to 7 except ME.
dejan555
PostPosted: Tue 23 Aug 2011, 03:39    Post subject:

@noryb009 On which windows versions does the installer work?

@kevin bowers It would be good to try to run google earth from terminal, then see if it outputs any error messages.
bigpup
PostPosted: Tue 23 Aug 2011, 02:51    Post subject:

kevin bowers,

I Agree with James C. you are not using the Nvidia driver you installed.
You seem to have fallen into the Black area of Video driver install. What should work does not work. Could be the driver you installed is not compatible with your video card. Could be xorgwizard just refuses to us it for some unknown reason.
The only solution I have seen that works 100%, is to just start over fresh with a clean full install or for frugal installs, a fresh save file.
Make selecting and using a new video driver the first thing you do.

If anyone knows more about this please inform us. I just had basically this same problem and my only cure was to start fresh.

I tried a new driver and all that would work was the Vesa driver.
Removed old driver, rebooted using Vesa driver, installed new driver, ran xorgwizard, tried to get new driver selected, and xorgwizard refused to use it.
Started with a fresh save file, installed the driver I tried to use, ran xorgwizard, and it worked this time.
James C
PostPosted: Mon 22 Aug 2011, 23:34    Post subject:

Your obviously not getting the correct driver selected.... "nv" is the generic driver which doesn't support OpenGL. Have you tried the "choose" option and then picking "Nvidia"? Probe should work to choose the correct driver but evidently not in your case.
Just an idea. Smile
kevin bowers
PostPosted: Mon 22 Aug 2011, 22:46    Post subject:

Bigpup,
installing the driver automatically runs xorgwizard, but I just did it again just to be sure. xorgwizard reports the driver being used as "nv". Just to eliminate possibilities I changed the depth from 16 to 24 bits. No go: Google Earth still shows the screensplash then quits, and hardinfo still reports "unknown" under "Open GL". I am back to my original theory, that this driver is not compatible with Google Earth. Too bad, but after all it's just a toy for me, not something I need, and I'm sure I could run it in Windows if necessary. Once again, thanks for the efforts even if they didn't pay off!
bigpup
PostPosted: Mon 22 Aug 2011, 21:54    Post subject:

First impression of Lucid Puppy 5.2.8
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=70999
bigpup
PostPosted: Mon 22 Aug 2011, 21:24    Post subject:

kevin bowers wrote:
Bigpup,
Hardinfo reports "unknown" under all the OpenGL categories. I installed what Quickpet recommended, Lucid511-nvidia-260.19.12-k2.6.33.2, and it seemed to go through all the steps and worked right.
I appreciate all the high-powered effort!

If you are not seeing info about a Nvidia driver in Hardinfo->display->OpenGL you are not using the Nvidia driver for OpenGL.
This is a good indication that the Nvidia driver is not being used to drive your Graphics.
After downloading and installing the Nvidia driver. Did you run xorgwizard to make the change to what driver the system is using?
When running xorgwizard:
After selecting the resolution you get option to test.
Run the test and the test results will tell you if the Nvidia driver is being used.
dejan555
PostPosted: Mon 22 Aug 2011, 19:43    Post subject:

Hi people, congrats on 5.2.8, it's a very smooth release.
Just booted it today for the first time on my laptop and it works nicely so I setup frugal install with 1.25 GB savefile and devx sfs.

Laptop is Fujitsu Siemens Esprimo Mobile V5535
Intel Celeron 540 @ 1.86 Ghz, 447 MB RAM (+512 swap)
wide monitor @ 1280x768 resolution

touchpad works, sound works ootb, downloaded firefox 5 which updated itself to 6.0, added flash, youtube videos play. Resolution wasn't set correctly on autoconfiguration but set easily in xorgwizad.
No lag in graphics or while browsing so far so I think I'll keep it as frugal on this machine Smile

I compiled some packages, new version of pidgin and latest weechat are here and here
Insomniacno1
PostPosted: Mon 22 Aug 2011, 09:03    Post subject:

Béèm wrote:
Insomniacno1 wrote:
Béèm wrote:
Insomniacno1 wrote:
Also it would be nice if wine were fully integrated in the menu, so that "Wine Programs" were there too. Right now its nowhere to be found after installing Wine and here I mean all versions up to the newest 1.3.9.xxxx.
From 3.xx on I use wine when it still was 0.9.x
Now I am at 1.3.23 and still never had a problem to find wine in the menu's of any puppy included the latest ones.
green_dome is the person who compiles wine and his latest is 1.3.25.
Winehq has announced 1.3.26, so green_dome will shortly announce it.

The Wine thread of green_dome can be easily found by searching on his name with the puppy search link in my thread.

Now for your problem, it is better to post it the users forum, as I don't think it's a lucid 5.2.8 issue.


Hi Beem, did I offend you in some way? I don't claim to have more experience than you guys, I have nothing but utter respect for your guys work, but as I said if someone dont tell about the problems then they will continue as is.

with kind regards

Jan

Actually I were not kidden or mistaken about the wine, one of the users here compilled it to 1.3.9.

http://www.wuala.com/puppylinux/version2013/wine-1.3.9_v1/

and 1.3.9 has actually been available since december 2010

http://www.winehq.org/news/2010121001

My problem, as described with wine is that the "Wine Programs" menu entry never show up in Puppy. "Wine Programs" is where all your installed programs will be listed, I cant see why that has been left out. Another thing missing from the menu is "Explore Drive C:".

Well, you say its not an issue with 5.2.8, and I say it seems to be problem with all Puppy including 5.2.8 so thats why I tell the publisher of 5.2.8 that it would be nice if it were fixed in his version:)


I'm not a programmer, but I can immagine the enormous effort someone has put into it when posting his or hers Puppy version. And I can appreciate it, but if we don't tell the problems then they will not get fixed.

With kind regards

JBJ
You probably have more experience then I have.
So good luck with your request.
kevin bowers
PostPosted: Mon 22 Aug 2011, 08:36    Post subject:

Bigpup,
Hardinfo reports "unknown" under all the OpenGL categories. I installed what Quickpet recommended, Lucid511-nvidia-260.19.12-k2.6.33.2, and it seemed to go through all the steps and worked right.
I appreciate all the high-powered effort!
bigpup
PostPosted: Mon 22 Aug 2011, 00:02    Post subject:

kevin bowers wrote:
playdayz wrote:
Quote:
Google Earth won't run, perhaps because it requires the drivers that PPM specifically says are not for NVidia cards? I installed the NVidia drivers but no go.

Thanks Kevin, I think Google Earth 6.0.3 *should* run with the Nvidia drivers in Quickpet, under Drivers. Test your card and then install the appropriate Nvidia driver. Maybe someone else with an Nviida card could test Google Earth--it definitely needs the high end graphics. Oh, i do have one Nvidia card to test.
Quote:
Cool Edit 2000

The greatest ever--I still use it. The copy protection might be a problem in wine. I'll try, but I am booked for a couple of days.


Testing the card and installing the appropriate driver is exactly what I did. BTW, it's a full-install on an EXT3 partition, Pentium dual-core w/4GB and a 512MB GeForce210 card. Should be plenty of horsepower. I tried two different versions of Google Earth, I get the screen splash and then nothing.

kevin bowers,
Are you sure you are using a Nvidia driver for your graphics card?
In menu->system->system status and config-> Hardinfo->display->OpenGL
What does it say fo OpenGL driver info?

I have a Nvidia Quadro FX 330 video card that uses the Nvidia 173.14.25 driver which is really old.
Google Earth 6.0.3 installed from Quickpet works fine for me. No problems.
kevin bowers
PostPosted: Sun 21 Aug 2011, 22:39    Post subject:

playdayz wrote:
Quote:
Google Earth won't run, perhaps because it requires the drivers that PPM specifically says are not for NVidia cards? I installed the NVidia drivers but no go.

Thanks Kevin, I think Google Earth 6.0.3 *should* run with the Nvidia drivers in Quickpet, under Drivers. Test your card and then install the appropriate Nvidia driver. Maybe someone else with an Nviida card could test Google Earth--it definitely needs the high end graphics. Oh, i do have one Nvidia card to test.
Quote:
Cool Edit 2000

The greatest ever--I still use it. The copy protection might be a problem in wine. I'll try, but I am booked for a couple of days.


Testing the card and installing the appropriate driver is exactly what I did. BTW, it's a full-install on an EXT3 partition, Pentium dual-core w/4GB and a 512MB GeForce210 card. Should be plenty of horsepower. I tried two different versions of Google Earth, I get the screen splash and then nothing.

I collect and clean-up old vinyl, their click-and-pop eliminator is the best I've ever seen although very slow. The program still runs on Win7. It returns an error message about the system not configured properly when I attempt to run it in WINE, and suggests running Setup again. Could still be copyright protection, though. That's probably the problem with Nitro PDF also, and I suspect it's just not worth the effort to try to get around it. After all neither one can be installed on a computer that doesn't have Windows on it anyway! I do have a standalone Windows program that I plan to test in WINE without Windows present, it is for reading and configuring Alltrax DC motor controllers through an interface cable. But I will have to do that at work because it requires the controller to be present or it closes. It'll be awhile before that happens, I'll try to post the results somewhere in the Puppy forums.

Once again, thanks for all the hard work!
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playdayz
PostPosted: Sun 21 Aug 2011, 22:28    Post subject:

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C and ffmpeg libraries optimized for i686 computers rather than the older i386 computers.


I saw that aarf. I decided not to worry about it--Lucid 5.2.8 is not really totally i686 like Slacko is--it's just those 2 libraries (important libraries they are). They also had the wrong number for Abiword, and maybe some other stuff. I just thought people probably don't look that closely.
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