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Lobster
PostPosted: Sun 13 Nov 2011, 21:11    Post subject:

Latest ISO, Windows exe installer and flash updates for Lucid here
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/puppy526
yep we don't have a 528 page . . .

Have not used Lucid in a long while, so anyone registering and updating the wiki for Lucid most welcome Smile
Did use pemasu's Lucid derivative - which worked great for me

Have a friend with a Samsung laptop
- Wifi drivers not available out of the box in Slacko
- gonna try Lucid (lupu-528.002.iso) for him - will put on a USB drive.
He wants to dual boot some minor OS called Whinedoze 7 and Ubuntu and use Puppy from DVD/Keydrive for banking . . .

Quote:
The fact is that Slacko is at the beginning of its development and Lucid is toward the end of its--though it will remain available with this forum for questions and discussion as well

Cool

Gosh Slacko is a mature project for me Shocked
- been using Slacko for months . . . Smile
- but Larry is right we need compiled programs for Slacko
- end user feedback etc

Beginning its cycle is Puppy 6 and PARM
No idea what will emerge . . . Smile
I have hijacked ye olde Saluki page for now . . .
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/Puppy6
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/PARM

Lucid seems to be shining brightly Very Happy
Sylvander
PostPosted: Sun 13 Nov 2011, 19:31    Post subject:

PROBLEM
1. No speaker icon at bottom right in the tray.
(a) Normally in a previous session, when I ran "Setup->Alsa sound wizard", that was successful, or so it seemed.

(b) Now, when I do that I don't hear any "woof-woof", and no speaker icon appears, not even after reboot.

(c) Anyone know a fix.
shinobar
PostPosted: Sun 13 Nov 2011, 08:53    Post subject: UPDATE: sfs_load
Subject description: sfs_load unable to unload sfs in some case

sfs_load may fail to unload the excessive(>6) SFS on Lucid Puppy 528.
REASON: the losetup command(busybox) on Lucid Puppy 528 cannot properly handle /dev/loop10 and larger.

Try sfs_load-1.3 in such case.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=64354
You may need to reboot PC after the sfs_load updated (only if you have loaded SFS more than 6).
otropogo
PostPosted: Sun 13 Nov 2011, 04:35    Post subject:

playdayz wrote:
...
otropogo, I have asked tempestuous and rerwin if they have any ideas. They are the experts on drivers. Since Slacko does work with usb3 it might be useful to ask for the features (versatility and range of applications) you want in Slacko. The fact is that Slacko is at the beginning of its development and Lucid is toward the end of its--though it will remain available with this forum for questions and discussion as well as the Instant Update 002. I am disappointed that 3HD did not work since it uses the same kernel and kernel mode drivers as Slacko. Like Lupu, 3HD will also remain available with an upcoming update and its support forum.

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Lupu 528 standard remains the only current version that works on both my Intel D865GLC desktop and my Toshiba laptop with USB3. No version of Slacko except 5.3 will boot my Intel desktop. But strangely, it doesn't provide native USB3 support (whereas 5.29.6 did)


Lupu528_K3.0.7 provides native support for USB3, but won't boot my desktop PC. It's also fatally crippled by inability to "see any active interfaces", wired or wireless on the 64-bit laptop.

Lupu 528 standard boots both of my PCs, and provides USB3 and 3TB support via pet (so I can't boot a save file or sfs from the USB3port). It seems initially that the 3TB drive is unwritable, because a red popup displays when mounting it that says:

Quote:
NTFS WARNING The ntfs-3g drive was unable to mount the NTFS partition and reported the following error message

fuse: if you are sure this is safe use the 'nonempty' mount option

So, the inbuilt kernel NTFS drive has been used to mount the partition read only OK


The same thing happens when first mounting the drive on the USB2 port.

However, after reattaching the drive to the second USB3 port and remounting it, the red popup no longer appears, and the partition is mounted writable. After that, it can also be reattached to the first port and mounted writable there.

It seems that some corruption has crept into all of the newer kernel versions of Slacko and lupu.
playdayz
PostPosted: Sun 13 Nov 2011, 01:09    Post subject:

Quote:
Since the purpose of the exercise was to get a Puppy with the versatility and range of applications of lupu 5.28, plus full support for USB3, my quest goes on. Presumably I'll have to wait for lupu to get a newer kernel with USB3 support.

otropogo, I have asked tempestuous and rerwin if they have any ideas. They are the experts on drivers. Since Slacko does work with usb3 it might be useful to ask for the features (versatility and range of applications) you want in Slacko. The fact is that Slacko is at the beginning of its development and Lucid is toward the end of its--though it will remain available with this forum for questions and discussion as well as the Instant Update 002. I am disappointed that 3HD did not work since it uses the same kernel and kernel mode drivers as Slacko. Like Lupu, 3HD will also remain available with an upcoming update and its support forum.

.
otropogo
PostPosted: Sat 12 Nov 2011, 03:16    Post subject:

[quote="James C"][quote="playdayz"]
otropogo wrote:
playdayz wrote:
...
Have you tried Three-Headed Dog? It uses the same kernel as Slacko.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=70736


....
Three-headed Dog should work fine with the default nv driver. ...


Have now tried Three-headed Dog on both my USB3 laptop and on my Intel D865GLC desktop with ATI X1550 video adapter.

The results were surprising and disappointing:

1. Although luci-001 handled the laptop's Nvidia adapter without problems, it was unable to detect the 3TB Goflex Desk drive on the USB3 expressport adapter. The issue is not with the size of the drive, as it mounts without issues on the USB2 port. It follows that luci doesn't have support for USB3.

Slacko_5.29.6 does detect and mount the same drive on the USB3 port.

2. on the Intel PC, there was a major problem with the video which I've never experienced before in any OS. At first bootup with pfix=ram, the screen was improperly sized, but the popup for the display responded to my input and set the screen resolution to 1600x1200. A Radeon driver was installed, and everything looked normal.

I then used the date/time setting box to adjust the time for daylight savings. When x-windows reset, instead of showing the configured screen, it presented the xorg wizard setup. I chose probe, and the wizard refused the 1600x1200 setting, and when the desktop displayed the screen was so dim, it was impossible to see the icons. I had to maximize the brightness setting of the monitor (in all other puppies I have it set to about 50%) in order to get a minimally visible desktop. I created a save file and rebooted, but the result was the same - too dim to be usable.

I then rebooted with my lupu-528 disk, and was able to lower the brightness setting of the monitor by 50% without reaching anywhere near the dimness of the luci screen.

Since the purpose of the exercise was to get a Puppy with the versatility and range of applications of lupu 5.28, plus full support for USB3, my quest goes on. Presumably I'll have to wait for lupu to get a newer kernel with USB3 support.
gcmartin
PostPosted: Sat 12 Nov 2011, 00:44    Post subject:

AFter some further testing with the lupu528, lupu528+update002M, lupu528-002M, WITH SAMBA, I think the problem may be the version of SAMBA available in the PPM. Maybe a newer PPM version of SAMBA in the next Puppy kernel for LUPU, might be in order.

Sorry for the original alert. It had seemed that the couple issues I saw (ROX and SAMBA issue) were related to the filesystem in Puppy528. It appears that might not be the case.
DAJ
PostPosted: Fri 11 Nov 2011, 21:31    Post subject: Instant Update 002 for Lucid 528 fixed problem with Remaster

Just installed Instant Update 002 for Lucid Puppy 5.2.8 on my machine and it fixed a problem I had had with remastering.

Already had instant update 001 installed and this had not fixed the remastering problem.

Thanks for the update.
roadkill13
PostPosted: Fri 11 Nov 2011, 19:28    Post subject:

Quote:
roadkill13, Are you sure the headphone volume is turned up--I find it easiest to use Menu -> Multimedia -> alsamixer or gnome-alsamixer.


Yup. Applying the update did not change my settings.
playdayz
PostPosted: Fri 11 Nov 2011, 15:06    Post subject:

Quote:
Booted into fresh save file. Applied the 002 update. I am able to hear sound from the external speaker but not the headphone jack.

roadkill13, Are you sure the headphone volume is turned up--I find it easiest to use Menu -> Multimedia -> alsamixer or gnome-alsamixer.
James C
PostPosted: Fri 11 Nov 2011, 02:13    Post subject:

Still no real problems with my frugal install of 528.002M .......nothing really to complain about. Smile
roadkill13
PostPosted: Thu 10 Nov 2011, 14:13    Post subject:

applied the non multimedia 002 update to a clean install of 5.28 on my Acer Aspire One D255 with HDA Intel audio and lost all sound.

Nothing changed with the settings. All the right check boxes are still checked. All of the sliders are still in the appropriate position. Configuration remains unchanged. Nothing is muted.

Not a thing wrong with it. Just no sound. So I ran the Alsa setup wizard again. Seemingly set up just fine minus the barking dog.

I created a fresh save file, booted into it without applying the update and I have sound again.

EDIT

Booted into fresh save file. Applied the 002 update. I am able to hear sound from the external speaker but not the headphone jack. Odd that because I had no sound at all when I applied the update to the previous save file.
Sylvander
PostPosted: Thu 10 Nov 2011, 14:11    Post subject:

1. "Sylvander, That is splendid. Could you give instructions please?"
(a)
See this post.
And...
How to prevent the spurious warning as a pupsave installation of Puppy boots, that the previous shut-down was improper.

2. "Perhaps you could suggest these enhancements to 2byte."
Already DONE.
playdayz
PostPosted: Thu 10 Nov 2011, 12:51    Post subject:

Quote:
Note for installing Pmusic 2.2.1 Please (re)move /root/.pmusic before install if your system runs a older Pmusic than 2.2.0

Could not doing this be causing the problem with using Pmusic 2.2.1 in the multimedia update?


Good point Bigpup, but the multimedia update deleted /root/.pmusic. Even though I have withdrawn the multimedia update and the multimedia ISO I will update the Super Multimedia upgrade in a bit.
playdayz
PostPosted: Thu 10 Nov 2011, 12:41    Post subject:

Quote:
One of the reasons [the main reason?] I use this as my number-1 OS is...
I'm able to have this Puppy treat my pupsave on an internal HDD as if it's a pupsave on a Flash Drive.
[Doesn't work on some other Puppies ]
Which means I can CHOOSE when/if to save during the session [manually]...
And then be given the option at shut-down/reboot "to save or not to save".
[Useful when using "Pupsave Hot Backup" for example]

Sylvander, That is splendid. Could you give instructions please?

Quote:
Used "Pupsave Hot Backup" to save a backup to a folder in an ext3 partition in my 1TB [USB2 connected] external HDD.
I LOVE this program!
I suppose it isn't possible to hot-restore also, huh?
Or choose a pupsave to restore at shut-down/reboot?
"Pupsave Hot Restore"?


Perhaps you could suggest these enhancements to 2byte.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?search_id=1953265535&t=49999

BTW, If you used the lupu-528.002.iso it was not necessary to install the Instant Update 002 pet, but it did no harm since the pet was already present int he ISO.

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