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elcurita
PostPosted: Wed 09 Nov 2011, 19:28    Post subject: No sound No alsa mixer icon
Subject description: Usb frugal install problems

Greetings good people: I have 2 Dell optiplex gx270 booting from USB stick. I have 5 users wich means 5 USB sticks Frugal Install in all of them.These boxes have the AC97 Audio Controller.I have installed Puppylinux 5..28 multmedia upgrade in all of then at least 3 times because of the following:
After the third boot aprox. we lost the following: Sound,AlsaMixer Icon,Clicking in AlsaMixer does nothing,Gnome Player shows but does not play (it seems to load a song then it stop)Pmusic shows but does nothing at all, Gnome AlsaMixer shows only a gui box with nothing in it, PupRadio shows a complete gui but after choosing a preset it just stay blank and does nothing.If I Re-install everithing is ok but after a couple of re-boots we have the same issues again.Please note that this happens with all 5 USB sticks and the two computers in any combination. Any ideas good people? Thank for your time
bigpup
PostPosted: Wed 09 Nov 2011, 17:11    Post subject:

From the Pmusic topic:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=213694#213694
Quote:
note for installing Pmusic 2.2.1 Please (re)move /root/.pmusic before install if your system runs a older Pmusic than 2.2.0

Could not doing this be causing the problem with using Pmusic 2.2.1 in the multimedia update?
gcmartin
PostPosted: Wed 09 Nov 2011, 14:05    Post subject:

playdayz wrote:
Hey gcmartin and others having trouble with Pmusic in the multimedia update iso, please try this pet of Pmusic 2.2.0. thanks.
Nope. Same behavior. on the 002M ISO live media system.
playdayz
PostPosted: Wed 09 Nov 2011, 13:45    Post subject:

Change. I am withdrawing the Multimedia ISO (which hasn't been released) and the Instant Update for Multimedia. One reason is to simplify--two options were one too many. Plus there were a couple of problems reported with the Multimedia components, that were not problems with the regular update and ISO. So now there is only the regular update and ISO (to be released soon). if you have been using the Super Multimedia Upgrade there should be no problems in continuing to use it--after the udpated ISO is released I will revisit making an updated Multimedia Upgrade. Thanks for your help with the testing.

Here is the current version of the Updated ISO.
http://diddywahdiddy.net/Puppy500/lupu-528.002.iso
fa51ceceba878461f013afd6dbe4b915

The only change from previous is that the gnome-mplayer %U glitch is fixed.

Possible Issue: If you lose video after installing the Update, please click the play icon on the desktop to open gnome-mplayer, then choose Edit -> Preferences, click the drop-down Video Output menu, and change to x11 (from xv). This is a no-win situation because DVD menus do not work well in x11. The reason for using xv video as default is that all sources agree that it is higher quality, plus the DVD menus work with it.

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Info: There is currently, since yesterday, a problem with the automatic Flashplayer installers. Evidently Adobe moved the location of the flashplayer binary. 01micko maintains the GetFlash script and he knows about this.
gcmartin
PostPosted: Wed 09 Nov 2011, 13:43    Post subject:

playdayz wrote:
Ah-Ha, I tried to slip 2.2.1 into the updated iso, better go back to 2.2.0, eh?
Before jumping to that concluson, Iff you PM me with testing to perform for each of these 2 versions of Lupu528-002M (the complete one and the updated one), I will test them for you and report. (just recommend steps for me to follow for you)

Remember, these 2 live media systems have not been save-session rebooted, as of yet. But, for SAMBA (now installed and tested on each), Seamonkey, and JAVA apps, all seem fine.

Hope this helps
playdayz
PostPosted: Wed 09 Nov 2011, 13:31    Post subject:

Quote:
The Lupu528 where the 002M update PET was applied is NOT exhibiting this bad behavior in its PMusic. V2.2.0.

Ah-Ha, I tried to slip 2.2.1 into the updated iso, better go back to 2.2.0, eh?


Quote:
2. Tried Pupsave Hot Backup and it appeared to work just fine.
What a great addition!
Any detail available on its operation?
I liked the way I was able to make a folder somewhere, then use the program to save the pupsave there, which is an essential feature, and thank goodness it has been included.

Pupsave Hot Backup is written by 2byte and here is the thread. http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?search_id=2135238237&t=49999

Sylvander, Thanks for testing. There are changes in the 002 update and iso that affect sound. If you do nay more testing you might try running ALSA Sound Wizard (under setup in the Menu).
gcmartin
PostPosted: Wed 09 Nov 2011, 13:12    Post subject:

playdayz wrote:
Quote:
in this LIve media operation, I am NOT getting same results. When I click the item showing in the playlist, nothing happens.
....
Sorry, I havent rebooted yet.

But, to answer your questions:
  1. gcmartin, Does it bark when it boots up?Yes, sound works fine everywhere.
  2. What happens if you right-click an mp3 and choose Play with Gnome-mplayer?It plays. and I can drag and drop MP3s to mplayer, as well.
  3. This is a CD made from lupu-528.002M.iso?Yes, same PC as reported earlier, with those reports


The LUPU Puppy 5.28 systems now has JRE and SeaMonkey .installed via PPM PETs.

But, PMusic-V2.2.1 is not behaving in LUPU002M Live media system that has not been rebooted from a save session.

Note on PMusic in your other Puppy 5.2.8 version:
The Lupu528 where the 002M update PET was applied is NOT exhibiting this bad behavior in its PMusic. V2.2.0. This system has NOT been rebooted either.

BTW on another note, your hostname approach works, too! ("logoff in restart")
Brown Mouse
PostPosted: Wed 09 Nov 2011, 09:52    Post subject:

Playdayz

Something else I found using Pmusic(on my setup).
When playing mp3's loaded from say (/my-documents),to remove a loaded file from the playlist,using right click and selecting 'Remove from playlist (mid-button)'doesn't seem to remove it..
I found that I had to use the 'Delete source button'and then answer'yes' at both prompts.This didn't appear to cause a problem.
However,what I found very alarming was,when I loaded mp3's to the playlist from a usb portable storage device,using the above method (Delete source button)literally deletes the files from the usb drive.
goutam
PostPosted: Wed 09 Nov 2011, 05:23    Post subject: Usb modem Dialup
Subject description: Micromac usb modem MMX310g

Hi,

@bigpup
@playdayz
Thank you for your response.

I Download http://diddywahdiddy.net/Puppy500/lupu-528.002_for_256MB.iso
and make a frugal installation.

I bootup puppy and then hot plug my wireless modem.
Modem detected on ttyUSB3. Configure wvdial and get connected.
No problem at all.
Thanks once again.

Goutam
nooby
PostPosted: Wed 09 Nov 2011, 03:46    Post subject:

Sylvander wrote:
2. Tried Pupsave Hot Backup and it appeared to work just fine. Very Happy
What a great addition!
Any detail available on its operation?
I liked the way I was able to make a folder somewhere, then use the program to save the pupsave there, which is an essential feature, and thank goodness it has been included.


Oh I 've been lost in other things and missed that feature.
Sounds very interesting indeed. I do back up saves too seldom.

The reason that I am still using Snow 5 instead of later versions is
that I know how to use a manual saving of Youtube in Snow 5 and
have not learned the modern way of doing it. I simply fail to find
my way around. Yes pemasu and others have told us how to but
I am not on that level of using cli and getting how to make it work.

okay I give 002 M a short test now and get back and report.
Being as lazy as I am now I cheated and reused an old pupsave
from 528 "secure" so most likely them are different enough to not
work well together.
So I should say nothing further. Just now I am into small folding bikes.
You know those named Human Powered Vehicles. No motor on them.
Sylvander
PostPosted: Wed 09 Nov 2011, 02:02    Post subject:

1. Whoops, OK, now I'm finding the problems. Sad

2. Tried Pupsave Hot Backup and it appeared to work just fine. Very Happy
What a great addition!
Any detail available on its operation?
I liked the way I was able to make a folder somewhere, then use the program to save the pupsave there, which is an essential feature, and thank goodness it has been included. Cool

3. Can't get Alsamixer to run.
Here's what I get:
Code:
# alsamixer
cannot open mixer: Input/output error
#


4. Gnome Alsamixer produces an empty window.
Perhaps I just don't know what needs done next?

5. My speaker icon is missing from bottom right.
What do I need to run to put that there?

6. Here's what I get when I attempt to run retrovol?
Code:
# retrovol
retrovol: hcontrol.c:573: snd_hctl_load: Assertion `hctl->count == 0' failed.
Aborted
#


7. Probably no point in me being told how to fix these things at this point in time, because...
Lupu is my main OS, and I can't live without at least 1 fully functioning Lupu.
So I'll restore my previous Lupu-526, and [soon as I have time available] make a fresh lupusave on a Flash Drive, and experiment with that.
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OK, I've restored Lupu-526, and the cold sweat has worn off.
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jim3630
PostPosted: Wed 09 Nov 2011, 01:36    Post subject:

installled 002M version pfix=ram to ext4. installed usual broadcom pet to connect eth1 with wifi. pmusic works showing the preinstalled item, clicking starts playback with album info.

removed %u from mplayer.desktop works. will continue testing next few days. thanks playdayz.

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multi-sound card wizard works with installed version 1.0.4.0 of mplayer. correctly identifying external speakers via HDMI connection and saves the settings with persistence through reboots.

in slacko above was a problem and required reverting to ver 1.0.2 of mplayer to work correctly.

playdayz well done!
playdayz
PostPosted: Wed 09 Nov 2011, 01:04    Post subject:

Thanks. I can fix the %U problem. I will double check the other.

Quote:
To fix it, open /usr/share/applications/gnome-mplayer.desktop and find the line that says 'Exec=gnome-mplayer %U', delete the %U, and save.

OK this worked to eliminate the error message when starting Gnome Mplayer.
Quote:
Bigpup, You could try opening gnome-mplayer then Edit -> Preferences and changing the Video Output to x11, to see if it will play that DVD right, but then it probably won't do the menus right..

OK this fixed the DVD movie play.
However, I have original Lucid 528 with the multimedia 002 update test.
Gnome Mplayer in it has the Video Output set to XV and it works OK for playing DVD movie.
Also, it did not have the %U entry.
bigpup
PostPosted: Tue 08 Nov 2011, 23:41    Post subject:

528.002
frugal + save
This is not the M version

Quote:
To fix it, open /usr/share/applications/gnome-mplayer.desktop and find the line that says 'Exec=gnome-mplayer %U', delete the %U, and save.

OK this worked to eliminate the error message when starting Gnome Mplayer.
Quote:
Bigpup, You could try opening gnome-mplayer then Edit -> Preferences and changing the Video Output to x11, to see if it will play that DVD right, but then it probably won't do the menus right..

OK this fixed the DVD movie play.
However, I have original Lucid 528 with the multimedia 002 update test.
Gnome Mplayer in it has the Video Output set to XV and it works OK for playing DVD movie.
Also, it did not have the %U entry.

I can not say for sure I did not already have that version of Gnome Mplayer installed prior to doing the multimedia 002 update test.

Again my problem was with the 528.002
Not the M version
playdayz
PostPosted: Tue 08 Nov 2011, 21:24    Post subject:

Quote:
in this LIve media operation, I am NOT getting same results. When I click the item showing in the playlist, nothing happens.

gcmartin, Does it bark when it boots up?

What happens if you right-click an mp3 and choose Play with Gnome-mplayer?

This is a CD made from lupu-528.002M.iso?
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