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| playdayz |
 Posted: Fri 07 Oct 2011, 23:35 Post subject:
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sszindian, Darn. Have you tried Three-Headed Dog? As I say often  it is identical to 5.2.8, but with the newer 2.6.37.6 kernel from Slacko and upgraded multimedia components.
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| sszindian |
| Posted: Fri 07 Oct 2011, 20:27 Post subject:
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playdayz wrote:
I would try this: boot 528 without a save file and immediately Shutdown and create a save file, rather than installing anything--don't change window managers.
sszindian replied: Didn't work... savefile problem persists!
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playdayz wrote:
Hmm, if that doesn't work, perhaps boot 528 and install the Instant update 001 and then Shutdown and create a save file.
sszindian replied: Didn't work... savefile problem persists!
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playdayz wrote:
Then, do change window managers, Desktop Settings -> WM Switcher.
sszindian replied: Didn't work... savefile problem persists
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playdayz wrote:
Are you creating the save file on a Linux partition?
sszindian replied: my entire HDD is Linux, I don't use Windows for anything including storage space.
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playdayz wrote:
Or short circuit the problem, and make a copy of a previous Lucid save file, then choose that to boot, and let 528 upgrade it. Do try this *with a copy* of a previous save file
sszindian replied: Even when I use another previously working savefile from another Lupu version, I get the Kernel Panic on a restart and reboot.
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playdayz wrote:
I guess you are sure you have enough space on the save file partition--Puppy checks before it offers you the size choices, but who knows.
sszindian replied: I have tons of available space.
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I even installed and used shonobars savefile.pet creator and upon reboot or startup got the same Kernel Panic after selecting it.
Sure beats me, never had a savefile be so stubborn before?
And like I said.... on a shutdown or reboot from 528 loaded strictly in RAM, a savefile 'Is Created' but it gives the Kernel Panic on startup or reboot.
On shutdown, the savefile goes as far as letting me create the unique-name for it (and I've tried several) but the 2nd part where it is supposed to ask if I want to copy files from the CD to the HDD 'Never Happens!' It just starts creating the savefile to the HDD (which in fact it does) then shuts down (or reboots) according to my quiting command. Next reboot or startup.... Kernel Panic!
>>>---Indian------>
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| bigpup |
| Posted: Fri 07 Oct 2011, 02:55 Post subject:
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Playdayz,
Something to consider adding to PPM or putting in an instant update.
Easy way to do a backup of the save file. Adds right click menu option to make backup using Pschedule.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=71976
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| Volhout |
Posted: Fri 07 Oct 2011, 02:51 Post subject:
remastering
Subject description: good idea |
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PlayDays, Rerwin,
Thanks for your continued support. If you plan to spend some energy in the remastering process, I am eager to follow that activity.
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| gortonc |
| Posted: Thu 06 Oct 2011, 22:32 Post subject:
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| Quote: | | Your discussion with rerwin gave me the idea that after that we might stress remastering--how each person can create their own personal Lucid, with exactly the programs they want. |
Here, Here - I second the motion! Keep up the good work folks, and thanks for everything.
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| scsijon |
| Posted: Thu 06 Oct 2011, 19:36 Post subject:
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| majorfoo wrote: |
Couple of small suggestions on remaster process
1. When you boot the remastered cd, you are required to go through the personalize settings screens. Could this be eliminated? This was accomplished on original boot. |
majorfoo,
Have you considered that the personalized screens would be needed to allow changes for moving to a different box, after some hardware change or even giving the remastered puppy to others?
just a thought
regards
scsijon
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| bigpup |
| Posted: Thu 06 Oct 2011, 15:27 Post subject:
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| Quote: | | If I were to make a pet that would "Lupufy" Slacko, are there suggestions about what could be included? By Lupufy I mean add some of the "convenience/usability" features of Lupu. |
Puppy Help 101
PupControl
No Blank Screen
Simple GTK GTK Theme Maker
JWM Theme Maker
Cloud Apps
RoxTerm
SearchMonkey file finder
Stay Connected to Internet
Xine DVD/DVD Player
HomeBank Help
Abiword Help
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| bigpup |
| Posted: Thu 06 Oct 2011, 14:50 Post subject:
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| Quote: | | Lucid Puppy is LTS (Long Term Support). |
Very much needed in the Puppy world.
To often a version of Puppy develops, but never quite gets to 100% before it is passed over for a newer direction.
I see Lucid Puppy as the solid version of Puppy.
Bug fixing and program update (for needed improvement) should be the continued direction for Lucid Puppy.
I see Slacko as the bleeding edge version, to support the bleeding edge new hardware that requires the newer Linux kernels.
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| playdayz |
| Posted: Thu 06 Oct 2011, 11:56 Post subject:
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| Quote: | Having a savefile problem in 528!
528 loads perfect, able to do downloads OK, program works great, etc., the problem is at shutdown.
Everything in shutdown is normal right up to and including 'Creatin Disk Space' on the savefile I have named... but... It never asks for the next option to include files from the CD to HDD for faster loading next time, the computer then just shuts down.
On reboot (or startup) it asks for the savefile I want to load (have several on HDD). I select the savefile I want, it starts loading then I get the 'KERNEL PANIC' and computer STOPS!
Appreciate any advice on how I can get by this problem somehow?
'Thanks'
>>>---Indian------> |
I would try this: boot 528 without a save file and immediately Shutdown and create a save file, rather than installing anything--don't change window managers.
Hmm, if that doesn't work, perhaps boot 528 and install the Instant update 001 and then Shutdown and create a save file.
Then, do change window managers, Desktop Settings -> WM Switcher.
Are you creating the save file on a Linux partition?
Or short circuit the problem, and make a copy of a previous Lucid save file, then choose that to boot, and let 528 upgrade it. Do try this *with a copy* of a previous save file
I guess you are sure you have enough space on the save file partition--Puppy checks before it offers you the size choices, but who knows.
Please let us know. Thanks.
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| Karl Godt |
| Posted: Thu 06 Oct 2011, 11:34 Post subject:
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| Quote: | Here's something to test for possible inclusion in the next Instant Update.
http://diddywahdiddy.net/Puppy500/alsa_driver-1.0.24.pet
Especially please test this if you can if you are having any problems with sound. We also need to test to make sure it doesn't cause problems for people who are not having problems I am running it and haven't had a problem. Install and reboot. Thanks.
It would be most convenient if any results of this test could be reported in the Lucid 5.2.8 thread. Thanks.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=70855 |
I had never really sound problems with the standard Puppy kernels [ but with self compiled ones [ especially configured to let udev manage the dynamic minors without mountig /dev at boot ] ] , but I tested the drivers dotPET on 2 older Puppies frugally installed with kernel 2.6.33.2 , and finally i managed to load the drivers for my soundcard . There are some probs not being automatically loaded at boot but thats no real problem for now .
Just out of couriosity i did download the alsa-10.24 src , too and diffed it to kernel-2.6.36.0 , which i had handy , sound directory .
The diff -uarNd became : TWO hundred TWENTYSEVEN thousand FOUR hundred FOURTYTHREE lines !!!!
Most differences are like
@@ -54,7 +54,7 @@
#include <linux/gfp.h>
#include "usbusx2yaudio.c"
-#if defined(USX2Y_NRPACKS_VARIABLE) || (!defined(USX2Y_NRPACKS_VARIABLE) && USX2Y_NRPACKS == 1)
+#if defined(USX2Y_NRPACKS_VARIABLE) || USX2Y_NRPACKS == 1
#include <sound/hwdep.h>
and only one line , but for example "Linux driver for TerraTec DMX 6Fire USB" is completely new !!!
The 2.6.36 and 37 kernels seem to have alsa-1.0.23 [ /include/sound/version.h ] , while the 2.6.33 kernel started with alsa-1.0.21 ....
So it would be a nice idea to add alsa-1.0.22 and alsa-1.0.23 as alsa kernel-driver pets , too .
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| playdayz |
| Posted: Thu 06 Oct 2011, 11:26 Post subject:
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| Quote: | | Again, to me linux is a tool, like a hammer. It is of no use to me when I have to put the head on every time I want to nail something down. It should simply work. And lupu 5 series does work on my 5 PC's |
Thank you Volhout, We put a lot of emphasis on "usability." I also think in terms of tools, and what I like is a tool "that feels good in the hand." It is a pleasure to use a well-made tool. We tried to make Lucid like that. Even after Slacko and Racy are released, we will continue to support Lucid. With rerwin's help, we are making a second Instant Update that will be released in a week or so. There will also be an updated Super Multimedia Upgrade. Your discussion with rerwin gave me the idea that after that we might stress remastering--how each person can create their own personal Lucid, with exactly the programs they want. We will also continue to post new pets to keep up with the software that changes often, such as browsers, as well as monitoring questions and comments in the forums. Lucid Puppy is LTS (Long Term Support).
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| Volhout |
Posted: Thu 06 Oct 2011, 03:15 Post subject:
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Subject description: remaster |
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PlayDays
I have been testing Slacko 1 month ago since you suggested it before, and it was far from lupu 5 series. I understand that from a developer standpoint Slacko may be cleaner and better, better api's (or whatever you call them) cleaner repositories ? better code compliance ?
I am a linux user, with close to 0 experience programming (I can do assembly language for microcontrollers, but that is where it ends). To me C is a note between B and C# (Music) and bash is what I do to my kids when they are naughty. I have great respect for you, the developers. It is absolutely amazing that a small team of "hardly controlled" enthousiasts can generate a product as good as puppy linux. But I sometimes loose track by the high pace at which the developpers move on or abandon projects (Jemimah, I hope she is OK).
As a user I have settled on Lupu 5 series, like people buy a Mac book and run OS-X. I have no intention to move on, unless it adds something. I am willing to spend time on testing, absolutely ! I love to do that. But I will not change over my 5 PC's until it adds something, and it is stable.
Rerwin: thank you for you suggestion. I will try this (maybe even tonight, when I am ready with the financial analysis spreadsheet on my morgage). Puppy runs my businesses.
Again, to me linux is a tool, like a hammer. It is of no use to me when I have to put the head on every time I want to nail something down. It should simply work. And lupu 5 series does work on my 5 PC's. For me this is the greatest compliment I can give to the developpers. I use it because it works. I do not use Ubuntu, I do not use Mint, I use 525 or 528 depending the PC.
Volhout
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| majorfoo |
| Posted: Wed 05 Oct 2011, 20:04 Post subject:
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| rerwin wrote: |
Consider remastering to make a lupu iso file/CD with your browser of choice, as well as all of the instant-update, additional-driver and other packages already installed? It is very easy to do if you start without a pupsave file (pfix=ram), install all of the desired packages, then remaster immediately, using the ramfs (last item in the presented list) for the work area. That also gives you the option of separating the drivers out into a zdrv sfs file, to reduce the size of the main sfs file (useful for 256MB RAM PCs). That is what I would do, and probably will at some point.
Richard |
Couple of small suggestions on remaster process
1. When you boot the remastered cd, you are required to go through the personalize settings screens. Could this be eliminated? This was accomplished on original boot.
2. On my remaster, I receive message message that puppy was not shut down properly with option to ignore or continue.
This was addressed in Lucid 525. Prior to remaster, go to etc directory and remove hidden file XLOADED.
Elimination of these two items, would enhance the remaster process.
majorfoo
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