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bigpup
PostPosted: Tue 29 Jul 2014, 16:54    Post subject:

This problem with downloaded pets seems to be caused by downloading with a browser like Firefox or others.

Something the browser is doing to the pet package file as part of the download process.

The pet packages seem to work OK if downloaded with the Puppy Package Manager or Wget.
mavrothal wrote:
If you use PPM (download only) or just "wget URL" or "curl -O URL" to download a package, works just fine.
However, if you download through Firefox (or Midori) the downloaded pet has different md5sum than the one you get with wget! So somehow downloading via the browser you get a corrupted pet.
More important the md5sum of the internal tarball of the pet is different than the one added to the pet file by dir2pet so pet2tgz catches that and bails out!
Confused

Bottom line, wget or curl your pets for now. (or use the download only option of PPM)


This is a posted fix for using Firefox browser to download.

SFR wrote:
In Firefox it can be fixed with:
1. about:config
2. Find network.http.accept-encoding string
3. And delete its gzip,deflate value
mavrothal
PostPosted: Sun 27 Jul 2014, 04:52    Post subject:

The Lucid repo was wiped and re-uploaded 2 weeks ago.
Do pets from ibiblio work for you?
hayden
PostPosted: Sat 26 Jul 2014, 10:01    Post subject: NLLUG

Has anyone tried recently to use packages for this flavor of Puppy from NLLUG? They had been my favorite source of all kinds of things but the latest packages I downloaded from there failed to install. Because most of the computers I work with do not have an Internet connection, I burned the pets to a DVD. I wondered if they were not working because of that so I copied some to my home directory in Puppy in case they needed to create files or directories at the point of use. I also changed permissinns so everyone could write or run them. No success. Then I downloaded one directly to my home directory and that did not work either.

I searched the forum for NLLUG and this thread came up first and it is the version of Puppy I am using. Alas, it is 189 pages long! I read back to 2013 and found only a vague reference to someone having trouble with pets from an unspecified source. I have been using Puppy since version 2 and have never had such a big problem with pets before.
bigpup
PostPosted: Wed 23 Jul 2014, 17:10    Post subject:

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I would also like to know if it is possible to install this to a usb completely, No Frugal?

Installing to a USB flash drive is the same as installing to a CD.
It makes a live Puppy USB.

Yes you can save to the USB.

Using Unetbootin is easiest way to install to USB if you do not want to do it with the Puppy programs from a running version of Puppy..
pcpunk
PostPosted: Tue 22 Jul 2014, 21:03    Post subject:

I would also like to know if it is possible to install this to a usb completely, No Frugal?

Is it possible to just save to the usb?

And please point me to a good tutorial so that I can install.

Do I need to burn a CD or just use something like Unetbootin?
pcpunk
PostPosted: Tue 22 Jul 2014, 20:21    Post subject: chris
Subject description: lucid puppy 5.2.8.6

bigpup wrote:
pcpunk,

I gave you some info about this in your post in Beginners Help.

Lucid Puppy repositories are being worked on to correct download problems.
Hopefully they will be fixed soon.

Seem to be working now.



Lucid 5.2.8 is not the latest version of Lucid Puppy, but that does not make it unusable or not supported.
Some hardware can not handle newer stuff.

Latest Lucid Puppy 5.2.8.6 is here:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=90461

Puppy is not like Windows.
"We have a new version, so you need to throw away your computer and buy a new one".

The older versions of Puppy are needed by some peoples hardware, so they still get support.

Be more concerned with what works not that it is the latest and greatest.


Yes I remember this, unfortunately I was told that this is not supported anymore and to go to Fatdog64-600. I could not even use LuPu so deleted it omg to bad.

Yeah, I am not interested in the latest and greatest, just what works for sure. Can you advise me on what to install. I am just using this as a back-up OS and to play around with. Fatdog did not seem to suit me, and I had to choose where to save my changes every time I quit, I don't remember having to do this in LuPu right? I liked LuPu and would be happy going back if you think I should. I don't think I have my setup in signature: Windows XP64bit with 32bit Home Edition installed, 4GB RAM, Dual Boot XP-LM17MQ.

Or should I go with Precise puppy? If you have time I will follow your advice. I just want something simple and fun to play around with, something that will allow me to find support etc. I am guessing I could go to the new LuPu as my system seems to be pretty robust for an old laptop. Good stuff, thanks pcpunk
Lil_humpers
PostPosted: Mon 21 Jul 2014, 14:55    Post subject:

Could not use Chromium V25.

Downloaded and installed using Quickpet a few minutes ago.

Probably not going to use it.
I do not like Google spying on me and what I do on the Internet.[/quote]

LH- I'm using Sulu Lupu 5286 002 and Chromium 25 works just fine but was installed ontop of Chromium 20 Lucid. Also slimboat 1.1.5 but only after using slimboat 1.1.4.3 Lucid pet. Pale Moon installs but doesn't not create an entry in the PPM to be able to unintall and it has a few quirks but usable. PM will not allow saving settings.

I also have Smplayer 14.3 and Stube 2.1 installed and working with qt 4.80 from saluki pets
bigpup
PostPosted: Fri 11 Jul 2014, 23:05    Post subject:

Quote:
I was also notified and read that I could only use Firefox and Seamonkey?

Some truth to this, but more to do with the version of the other browsers.
The newest versions of some browsers have minimum hardware/software requirements.

Chromium V20 seems to work OK for me.

Could not use Chromium V25.

Downloaded and installed using Quickpet a few minutes ago.

Probably not going to use it.
I do not like Google spying on me and what I do on the Internet.
bigpup
PostPosted: Fri 11 Jul 2014, 22:03    Post subject:

pcpunk,

I gave you some info about this in your post in Beginners Help.

Lucid Puppy repositories are being worked on to correct download problems.
Hopefully they will be fixed soon.

Seem to be working now.



Lucid 5.2.8 is not the latest version of Lucid Puppy, but that does not make it unusable or not supported.
Some hardware can not handle newer stuff.

Latest Lucid Puppy 5.2.8.6 is here:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=90461

Puppy is not like Windows.
"We have a new version, so you need to throw away your computer and buy a new one".

The older versions of Puppy are needed by some peoples hardware, so they still get support.

Be more concerned with what works not that it is the latest and greatest.
pcpunk
PostPosted: Fri 11 Jul 2014, 11:46    Post subject:

I have been asking questions to get myself acquainted with what exactly it is that I need to have a LiveUSB puppy distro. I already have Lupu 5.2.8 something and recently had an issue with Chromium not getting IheartRadio and some Photobucket issues. I was having the same issues with LMMQ17 and just uninstalled Google Chrome and reinstalled and all worked fine after that. We believe that he issue was a bad wireless internet connection. Now I cannot get a browser to download from anywhere in Lupu. One member suggested that the Repository was not working the last couple of days. I was also notified and read that I could only use Firefox and Seamonkey?

I was also told that this distro was not supported anymore, is this true?

Is there a better option for me with LiveUSB? Precise, Slacko etc. I can't even find system requirements for these distro's.
Finally I feel like I am in the right place for this info. anyhow? If I am not then just send me away lol. see ya!
mavrothal
PostPosted: Tue 01 Apr 2014, 00:52    Post subject:

rerwin wrote:
After uploading the remaining variants for 3HD, sulu1 and sulu3, I plan no further updates other than LibreOffice for at least several months, maybe many. Although I do not want to compete with the newer puppies, I do want to keep lupu/sulu viable for those of us feeling no need to migrate to them, yet.
Richard


Dear Richard,
in my mind 5.1.x/5.2.x puppies are the benchmark puppies that hugely improved the appeal of puppylinux. And the fact that you (and others) still support it and people use it 4 years latter, is a testament to that.
I do not know if it *should* compete with newer puppies but as I said from the beginning, Lucid-5.2.8.6.<last_date> should get a version update to 5.2.9 and its place in the puppy mirrors. Exclamation
I do not know if this will be considered competition but I do know that still supporting and updating a puppy 4 years after its release is certainly very welcome and I may add beneficial for the puppy-brand as a whole Wink
So how "APR 05 2014" sounds as a release date Cool ?
rerwin
PostPosted: Mon 31 Mar 2014, 18:54    Post subject:

bigpup wrote:
Can you also post these links in the Lucid Puppy Revitalized as 5.2.8.6! topic.
In the 3rd post would be a good place.
Also, any other driver links you have.
Done, for sulu2 and sulu4. Thanks for the recommendation.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=739520#739520

npierce, thank you for your words of encouragement.

mavrothal, et al, I will stay consistent with playdayz's classification of 5.2.8.6 and not attempt to access the repo for the graphics drivers. The links to them are now in the 5.2.8.6 thread. Since there is so little download activity for them, I conclude that I need not add them to the "plus" variants.

After uploading the remaining variants for 3HD, sulu1 and sulu3, I plan no further updates other than LibreOffice for at least several months, maybe many. Although I do not want to compete with the newer puppies, I do want to keep lupu/sulu viable for those of us feeling no need to migrate to them, yet.
Richard
npierce
PostPosted: Sat 29 Mar 2014, 09:08    Post subject:

Richard,

After not logging-on to the forum for a couple of weeks, I was pleased to visit this week and see that you have released lupu-5.2.8.6-20140321. I have downloaded it, am using it now, and am quite happy with what I see.

I know that the process of fixing bugs, testing and generally maintaining a whole distro full of applications and utilities must be a large task, and I appreciate all the effort that you must have put in to make this happen. For many developers, fixing bugs is not nearly as exciting as adding new applications and features, and so bugs don't always get the attention they deserve. Many users, as well, tend to be more excited by new stuff then they are by old bugs which have been squashed. But for some of us, no amount of new stuff will make up for the aggravation of repeatedly tripping over old bugs -- especially those that have already been reported.

So I thank you not only for including so many bug fixes in this release, but also for going the extra mile of doing the research and tracking down old bug reports to ensure that as many bugs as possible were eliminated from Lupu. It is good to see someone put in so much effort to improve the reliability of a Puppy.
bigpup
PostPosted: Fri 28 Mar 2014, 18:04    Post subject:

Rerwin,

Can you also post these links in the Lucid Puppy Revitalized as 5.2.8.6! topic.
In the 3rd post would be a good place.
Also, any other driver links you have.

Thanks!!

rerwin wrote:
Lupusuper2-5.2.8.6-3.2.48-20140321

have provided a set Nvidia drivers for lupusuper2 here:
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/39gu2eot2s8w3/lupusuper2-k3.2.48 sfs
and
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/j93ga7o7nyckl/lupusuper2-k3.2.48 pets
mavrothal
PostPosted: Thu 27 Mar 2014, 01:45    Post subject:

bigpup wrote:
Quote:
Why the trademark holder of puppylinux should actively develop it himself to be able to define which build is a "puppy"?

Being active in developing a version of Puppy is not at issue.

Barry K. stating:
"I am retiring from the central role".
"others are now taking the reins."

To me indicates someone else is going to make decisions about Puppy.

Seems to me anyone that works on Woof-CE is controlling Puppy development.
The code changes they make to Woof-CE, directly affects Puppy in the future.
You use Woof-CE to build a version of Puppy.
The code in Woof-CE is controlling what is being done.

This discussion should probably be moved to another thread but lets leave it here for now.

I think we are confusing 3 things. Development, release and policies.
Woof development is the infrastructure that builds "official" puppies. However, not all woof-build puppies are "official". See Pemasu's Dpups as an example. So woof is necessary but not sufficient.
Release, is actually the production of a puppy version. People that released puppies can assure you that takes much more that just running a woof script to make a decent puppy.
What goes into a free public repository that is mirrored by 10+ other free sites and why, is a matter of policy. ie how long you support a release. Is updating the kernel of an old release an update, a new release or a derivative?
Is adding packages not compatible with the official release, going to give problems to the official?
Should the limited (allocation, bandwidth) resources be used for older or newer resources? etc etc.
This policies part is not relinquished in the "post-BK" era, but I would agree it should be discussed.

Several people may have access to ibiblio/puppylinux, some from the woof-CE team and some not. However, non of them would think to use the privilege as their personal server and I'm assuming that this is the reason that BK granted them access.


Quote:
In trying to add graphics hardware drivers to the official Lucid repository, the question was are all of the new versions of Lupu 5286 now considered derivatives of Lucid Puppy? Thus not official versions. So, they do not get support in the Lucid Puppy official repository.

Should this repository be locked from adding any new packages or updates to the packages already in it?

Makes me wonder.
Is Slacko64 an official release of Slacko or a derivative or the official 64 bit version of Puppy?

I think from the beginning they were derivatives (see 3HD) and I do not see why is that different now.
In general the so far policy was only official builds and packages directly linked/usable to/by them go to ibiblio. Otherwise we wouldn't have 10 sites with pet packages and then few more thousands in the forum.

Regarding slacko64, it does aspire to mature enough to become the first official 64-bit version of puppylinux.

Anyway, maybe is a good idea to open a new thread to discuss these matters because I think with BK's retirement from development they may arise often. Who knows he might even drop in for a comment Wink
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