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bigpup
PostPosted: Thu 26 Apr 2012, 01:22    Post subject:

rerwin wrote:
Could those of you seeing the problem in your full installation please install this package and report whether it makes any difference in the shutdown behavior? TIA.
Richard

Thanks to musher0 for tracking down the cause of the problem.

Rerwin,

This shutdown problem some are seeing,
Glad to see your input on this issue.
(works fine for me without your fix, Lupu528.005).

I am not so sure it is only happening with full installs.
I have read posts by people, with frugal installs, having the problem.
Seems to be mostly, newer users trying newer Puppies (Racy, Slacko, etc..) and Lucid 528.005 versions.
don570
PostPosted: Wed 25 Apr 2012, 17:44    Post subject:

I was able to convert pmirror so that it
can mirror 5 folders now.

I call the application 'Puppy backup 1.4'

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=77685


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radky
PostPosted: Wed 25 Apr 2012, 17:43    Post subject:

ICPUG wrote:
To be perfect this Libre option could do with a lot of boring tweaking work to align everything with the Libre Office addition. For example PupApps needs a tweek although the new PupMenu automagically detects Libre!

PupApps uses the LO and OO prefixes to distinguish the LibreOffice executables from OpenOffice executables of the same name (for example, LO-swriter versus OO-swriter).

In Preferences of PupApps you will find the following LibreOffice options are available for LupuLibre 528.005:

Database: LO-sbase
Spreadsheet: LO-scalc
Wordprocessor: LO-swriter
Presentation: LO-simpress
Vector Editor: LO-sdraw
rerwin
PostPosted: Wed 25 Apr 2012, 17:23    Post subject:

recobayu wrote:
thanks bigpup,
i found a solution about shutdown problem by musher0 at this thread:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=622476
and now, my puppy can shutdown normally.
Thanks for narrowing the problem down to the 3 wm* scripts. Here are the differences between the long-standing versions and your substitutes:
    diff bin/lupuplus-005-1/wmexit bin/wmexit
    3a4,8
    > #### Ajout par musher0, 7 déc. 2011
    > #### Pour le cas où on a un panneau rox en-haut.
    > [ -e ~/barre-dr.oui ] && /usr/local/bin/rox -t= && mv ~/barre-dr.oui ~/barre-dr.non
    > sleep 0.04s
    >
    diff bin/lupuplus-005-1/wmpoweroff bin/wmpoweroff
    4a5,12
    > ####
    > # Ajout par musher0, 7 déc. 2011
    > ## Pour le cas où on a un panneau rox en-haut.
    > [ -e ~/barre-dr.oui ] && /usr/local/bin/rox -t= && mv ~/barre-dr.oui ~/barre-dr.non
    > sleep 0.04s
    > # Fin de l'ajout
    > ####
    >
    diff bin/lupuplus-005-1/wmreboot bin/wmreboot
    4a5,9
    > #### Ajout par musher0, 7 déc. 2011
    > #### Pour le cas où on a un panneau rox en-haut.
    > [ -e ~/barre-dr.oui ] && /usr/local/bin/rox -t= && mv ~/barre-dr.oui ~/barre-dr.non
    > sleep 0.04s
    >
Assuming no one seeing the problem has file barre-dr.oui in the root directory, the only addition that always executes is the "sleep 0.04s" command. I have added that to the lupu versions and placed the updated scripts into the attached package (which contains 2 unrelated minor mods). Here are the resulting differences:
    diff lupuplus-005-1/wmexit /root/lupu528-IU002_rerwin_patch-8b-delta/usr/bin/wmexit
    3a4,5
    > sleep 0.04s #120425 appears to prevent misbehavior in full installation.
    >
    diff lupuplus-005-1/wmpoweroff /root/lupu528-IU002_rerwin_patch-8b-delta/usr/bin/wmpoweroff
    4a5,6
    > sleep 0.04s #120425 appears to prevent misbehavior in full installation.
    >
    diff lupuplus-005-1/wmreboot /root/lupu528-IU002_rerwin_patch-8b-delta/usr/bin/wmreboot
    4a5,6
    > sleep 0.04s #120425 appears to prevent misbehavior in full installation.
    >
Could those of you seeing the problem in your full installation please install this package and report whether it makes any difference in the shutdown behavior? TIA.
Richard
playdayz
PostPosted: Wed 25 Apr 2012, 14:30    Post subject:

For anyone interested.

Three-Headed Dog Version 5.2.8.005 Updated ISO APR 25, 2012 - Luci-001.005

The big news is that Help is working in Abiword and Homebank and the web links are working in many (or all) programs Help -> About. More big news is that there is a Libre version with Libre Office 3.5.2 installed and integrated with the desktop

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=552539#552539
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Quote:
Does Libre office include the Math module?

The Math (Formula) module is included, but no menu entry. Menu -> Document -> Libre Office 3.5 is a way to start it.

No more updates for a while. I hesitate to mention it but it *might* be possible to remaster a Libre version to run in ram on that 512MB machine. If one started with 3HD Libre one would need to remove about 26-30MB to shrink the luci_001.sfs below 256MB. Abiword is about 6MB and Gnumeric is about 7Mb, so that would be a start. 3HD uses the separate z-drive for the drivers which saves some space. And wait a minute, I had to use a large guvcview to get it to work, so that is another 6MB! Anyone have suggestions for a couple of other 2-3Mb programs that could be removed? midori and xine-dvd might do it.

Quote:
Libre Office includes the Base module. Puppy has a database at last - for those that need it! Haven't tested it though. Worth a test as this depends on Java.


Lupu Plus Libre has java built in--Lupu Libre doesn't. I used shinboar's latest jre http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?search_id=633651508&t=61287
ICPUG
PostPosted: Wed 25 Apr 2012, 08:39    Post subject:

Had a play with LupuPlus Libre 5.2.8.005 last night.

Despite the fact my laptop only has 512K memory the result is awesome with a frugal Lin'N'Win install. A bit of a delay while waiting for Libre Office to load from hard disk but nothing exceptional.

This is the first time I have had Libre Office running with its in-built help working without asking for the internet! Knoppix has Libre Office as well but it asks for the internet if you click help. Perhaps they have not configured Java properly.

Libre Office includes the Base module. Puppy has a database at last - for those that need it! Haven't tested it though. Worth a test as this depends on Java.

Does Libre office include the Math module? Didn't see it on any menus anywhere.

I downloaded the -1 update last night so will install properly with save file tonight.

Very annoying that a minor update comes so soon after release. Now there is a -2 on the LupuLibre option. Not sure if that is bringing it up to LupuPlusLibre standard (some of it certainly is) or whether it goes a bit beyond. Annoying if it does. I don't like this rotational update approach! Upgrade all strands to the same standard at once.

To be perfect this Libre option could do with a lot of boring tweaking work to align everything with the Libre Office addition. For example PupApps needs a tweek although the new PupMenu automagically detects Libre! The help file from the desktop needs changes. Pup Help 101 probably needs some additions. I'm not asking for Playdayz to do this. what he has done is awesome. We need some polishers to give the final sheen.

I love this Puppy!
Sage
PostPosted: Wed 25 Apr 2012, 02:24    Post subject:

Oh yes, there is a problem with shutdown and this may be a solution in some cases:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=77818
Thanks, aarf.
recobayu
PostPosted: Wed 25 Apr 2012, 00:40    Post subject:

thanks bigpup,
i found a solution about shutdown problem by musher0 at this thread:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=622476
and now, my puppy can shutdown normally.
thanks. Very Happy
cthisbear
PostPosted: Tue 24 Apr 2012, 23:17    Post subject:

Updated Lucid ISO 005

Thisis the first time I have connected with wireless
on the Asus Eee PC with Puppy.

Ralink corp. RT3090 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe

Encrypted >> WPA2 >>

What a stinker.

Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N270 @ 1.60GHz
Socket Designation: PBGA 437

Ethernet controller : Atheros Communications AR8132 Fast Ethernet (rev c0)

Network controller : Ralink corp. RT3090 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe

"""""""""""""

Thanks ....Chris.
gcmartin
PostPosted: Tue 24 Apr 2012, 16:37    Post subject: JRE or JAVA PETs issues in Puppy LInux distros

I have discovered a problem with JAVA support in latest version of LupuPLUS-Libre.

It is described here. And,is similar with some past efforts.
prehistoric
PostPosted: Tue 24 Apr 2012, 15:15    Post subject:

Doggone playdayz, I haven't finished installing the earlier versions.

I ran into a problem which I notice on LupuLibre5.2.8.005. On a machine which uses the nvidia 96... driver recommended by the button on the drivers tab of quickpet, there is a race condition between different processes. To get a good install I clicked "no" when it asked if I wanted to exit X at that time, then did a control-alt-backspace exit to the cli -- after the driver had been installed and the menu updated.

What appears to happen on some machines, but not others, even with the same graphics, is that the exit takes place while the script is still working on the XML for the menu. This produces an error message when I return to the desktop, and sometimes a truncated menu.

I had earlier installed ordinary 5.2.8.005 on the same machine without a problem. It appears that the longer menus, and the speed of the machine, cause this problem to manifest itself on LupuLibre.
Sage
PostPosted: Tue 24 Apr 2012, 13:49    Post subject:

Quote:
If it is not unmounted..

Bingo! Thanks, BP.
Don't usually have to bother. Perhaps there's something in Control Panel for auto-unmounting?

Later: Oh no it isn't! Spuriosity returns; reported on Saluki thread. This is new!
playdayz
PostPosted: Tue 24 Apr 2012, 12:48    Post subject:

There is a little tweak to Lupu Libre now lupulibre-528.005-2. Basically it includes the doc-type pet that was extra, along with turning off auto-updating in Libre Office. http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=70855

Psip32 is now included long with Pburn 3.5.2.
bigpup
PostPosted: Tue 24 Apr 2012, 12:36    Post subject: Re: lucid can't reboot

recobayu wrote:
i do full install lupuplus 528.005.
at first and second shutdown, it is no problem, but the third, lupuplus can't shutdown. after black screen, lupu back again to desktop, but no sound.

One thing that can cause this when it is a full install.
If the partition Lupuplus is installed on, is mounted by clicking on the partition drive icon on the desktop.
If it is not unmounted by right clicking on partition drive icon and choosing unmount.
At shutdown it will do as you indicate.
Sage
PostPosted: Tue 24 Apr 2012, 10:12    Post subject:

Quote:
...the third, lupuplus can't shutdown

Ah! Perhaps that's where ditto Saluki got it from?
This is serious, but no idea how to fix it.
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