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playdayz
PostPosted: Fri 27 Apr 2012, 20:10    Post subject: Re: Test 3 of your recent PUPs for JAVA includion

Thank you shinobar for the explanation. I see what happened. I will make a new Lupu Plus Libre in a day or two.

shinobar wrote:
gcmartin wrote:
sh-4.1# java
sh: java: command not found

I have reviewed the LupuPlusLibre-528.005-1.iso. There missing java environment stuff under /etc. This occurs when you load SFS and remaster. The remasterpup2 includes the files under /etc and /root which is installed by PET, but NOT from SFS. The encounter is to convert SFS to PET and install the PET and then remaster.
shinobar
PostPosted: Fri 27 Apr 2012, 20:07    Post subject: Re: Test 3 of your recent PUPs for JAVA includion

gcmartin wrote:
sh-4.1# java
sh: java: command not found

I have reviewed the LupuPlusLibre-528.005-1.iso. There missing java environment stuff under /etc. This occurs when you load SFS and remaster. The remasterpup2 includes the files under /etc and /root which is installed by PET, but NOT from SFS. The encounter is to convert SFS to PET and install the PET, then remaster.

Attached the pet contains the java environment setting stuff under /etc. You need to reboot PC after installing the PET. Or, go down to the console, type 'exit', then 'xwin' to refresh the environment.

@jemimah, You need not convert the whole SFS to PET if you load the SFS plus install the PET attached.
EDIT: but still be better to convert the whole SFS because it leaves the record in the woof-installed-packages and under the builtin_files.
playdayz
PostPosted: Fri 27 Apr 2012, 20:04    Post subject:

Quote:
This is what I get trying to check for JAVA in the system when I booted ALL 3 "puppy" ISO versions you have recently made available to the community. MaybeI am missing some obvious step. If I have, please direct me appropriately.

I booted the ISO via Live media and via Netboots. Each time after FirstRUN, I open a terminal and get the following:
Code:
sh-4.1# java
sh: java: command not found
sh-4.1#

Yes, the java executable is not in the path. I will insert it next time when I know if it is better to put a shell file in /usr/bin or add /usr/java... to the path. I was interested only in Libre Office and the browsers--I am unaware of requests to run particular java programs so I didn't think of it. Thanks.
gcmartin
PostPosted: Fri 27 Apr 2012, 17:46    Post subject: Test 3 of your recent PUPs for JAVA includion

This is what I get trying to check for JAVA in the system when I booted ALL 3 "puppy" ISO versions you have recently made available to the community. MaybeI am missing some obvious step. If I have, please direct me appropriately.

I booted the ISO via Live media and via Netboots. Each time after FirstRUN, I open a terminal and get the following:
Code:
sh-4.1# java
sh: java: command not found
sh-4.1#
I mean no disrespect by asking this, so please don't think I don't appreciate the effort you're doing.

If JAVA is to be added to the Libre-systems, why is it being 'buried" in the libreoffice directory, versus, makeing it available to all subsystems? Is there some logic to this that I am missing? No other OS does this, so why is this behavior necessary in Puppy?
JAVA adds services to a system for applications to reference and use.

LibreOFfice is NOT the only application that would exist in a given system that will need or use JAVA. As such, shouldn't we, PUPPY community, be making this susbsystem accessible to all applications?
Further, if this is an oversight, what should be done to automatically make JAVA available system-wide

Here to help

Even though this is a temporary circumvention in an earlier post, it is that...a temporary circumvention. We should expect a correction for system-wide use even after a save-session and reboot, if possible.

Thanks for any understanding
Minnesota
PostPosted: Fri 27 Apr 2012, 17:39    Post subject: Cofusion

Bit of confusion on my part?

This is what I was running. lucilibre-001.005.iso

It has the base, do I need to do something special to activate Java First? As running base from the menu indicated no java. Therefore no wizards, and other items do nor work. Basic base functions. I can generate tables etc.

Did I miss something?
bigpup
PostPosted: Fri 27 Apr 2012, 15:38    Post subject:

rerwin and others,

Talking about Broadcom B43 and problems.
Here is a poster that explains how it was fixed for him.
Different remedy for the problem.
Just wanted to make sure you had seen this.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=77811
peebee
PostPosted: Fri 27 Apr 2012, 15:22    Post subject:

playdayz wrote:
Quote:
This assumes playdayz included my latest Broadcom components as in the other 005s. I have not checked on what he included in 3HD.

I don't think so. You will have to install the pet.


Chris, Richard, Larry

I haven't made a Broadcom wl pet for 3HD k2.6.37 as of yet I'm afraid.....the pets are very kernel dependent unfortunately

So there isn't a pet for Chris to install - sorry.

Cheers
peebee
playdayz
PostPosted: Fri 27 Apr 2012, 14:06    Post subject:

Quote:
This assumes playdayz included my latest Broadcom components as in the other 005s. I have not checked on what he included in 3HD.

I don't think so. You will have to install the pet.
rerwin
PostPosted: Fri 27 Apr 2012, 13:24    Post subject:

cthisbear wrote:
Three-Headed Dog Version 5.2.8.005

I had a quick boot on the Dell Studio XPS.

No wireless....Broadcom b43.
Nothing shows at all.
Chris,
Please reboot and you should see wireless as detected by b43. On the initial boot, the proprietary driver, wl, is used. If it generates an error message in the log, the subsequent boot should try b43. This assumes playdayz included my latest Broadcom components as in the other 005s. I have not checked on what he included in 3HD.
Richard
playdayz
PostPosted: Fri 27 Apr 2012, 12:32    Post subject:

Quote:
Half request, half need.

Please fix java support for Base...

Java is included in Lupu Plus Libre. This is kind of new so we are trying to figure out what config works best. AFAIK Java should work with Base in Lupu Plus Libre--maybe you can test. You can also add Java to Lupu Libre with shinobar's sfs http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?search_id=1888808982&t=61287

If you add java to Lupu Libre you will need to go to Tools -> Options -> Java and enable it. I am thinking now that all Libre future versions should include java, refer to BigPup's findings above..

Quote:
I believe I (and others with Intel Sandybridge 6 Series /c200 chips) could get sound in Lupu 5.2.8 if

# cat /proc/asound/version
Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.24.

Where is that please vtpup? Have you tested that?

Quote:
jre-1.6.0.22.pet

I will make a pet out of shinboar's latest java sfs and put it in PPM--as soon as we figure out whether and how best to put the java executable in the path. It is preferred to use the sfs linked above.
Minnesota
PostPosted: Fri 27 Apr 2012, 07:51    Post subject: Please fix Java support

My 2 cents:

Half request, half need.

Please fix java support for Base...or post a message when it is run as to what is necessary to activate it. I use a commercial "base", and would love to be able to finally have a full database in Puppy. I tested what I could. Seems to work better than older versions. I am sure a lot of folks will use this. The easier it is to use, the more folks will use it, I am sure. Thanks.

Above all THANKS for all the hard work on Puppy!
cthisbear
PostPosted: Fri 27 Apr 2012, 04:33    Post subject:

Three-Headed Dog Version 5.2.8.005

I had a quick boot on the Dell Studio XPS.

No wireless....Broadcom b43.
Nothing shows at all.

Screen 1280 x 720

Sound....Nice and loud

Chris
shinobar
PostPosted: Fri 27 Apr 2012, 03:34    Post subject: Re: JRE or JAVA PETs issues in Puppy LInux distros

gcmartin wrote:
I have discovered a problem with JAVA support in latest version of LupuPLUS-Libre.

It is described here. And,is similar with some past efforts.

I have not reviewed the LupuPLUS-Libre, but as for the jre-1.6.0.22.pet the quiqkpet offers in the lupu-528-005, there is an issue for RAM mode, that is without pupsave.
Some pet packages assumes you already have pupsave. The installed files without pupsave will be disappear after you make pupsave.
Recent version of PPM checks it out and warns as follows, but the PPM in the lupu-528-005 does not.
bigpup
PostPosted: Fri 27 Apr 2012, 01:33    Post subject:

Found this statement on Java in the LibreOffice Getting Started Guide.

Quote:
Some LibreOffice features (wizards and the HSQLDB database engine) require that the Java
Runtime Environment (JRE) 1.6.x or higher be installed on your computer. Although LibreOffice will work without Java support, some features will not be available. If you have an older PC and do not
need the features requiring the JRE, you can disable it to speed up the loading of the program.

Quote:
Base (database)
Base provides tools for day-to-day database work within a simple interface. It can create and edit
forms, reports, queries, tables, views, and relations, so that managing a connected database is much the same as in other popular database applications. Base provides many new features, such as the ability to analyze and edit relationships from a diagram view. Base incorporates HSQLDB as its default relational database engine. It can also use dBASE, Microsoft Access, MySQL, or Oracle, or any ODBC-compliant or JDBC-compliant database. Base also provides support for a subset of ANSI-92 SQL.
vtpup
PostPosted: Thu 26 Apr 2012, 22:32    Post subject:

Discovery:

I believe I (and others with Intel Sandybridge 6 Series /c200 chips) could get sound in Lupu 5.2.8 if

Code:
# cat /proc/asound/version
Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.24.


as in Racy, Sulu, and Upup Precise instead of:

Code:
# cat /proc/asound/version
Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.21.


in Lupu 528

Is that change do-able? .....Please?
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