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playdayz
PostPosted: Sat 28 Apr 2012, 15:58    Post subject:

Quote:
Full install of lupu-libre-528-005-2 to ext4 partition.

Everything I have tried works OTB.

One thought - add entry in /usr/local/bin for
defaultdatabase and defaultformula

If you use Base you will probably want java--links in my message above.


Quote:
That pretty much showed that it was a driver problem, So then I tried checking the version of asound in 3 distros where my soundcard works, results here:

Lupu 528 -v5 sound does not work:
Code:
sh-4.1# cat /proc/asound/version
Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.21.


vtpup, Is it a new computer--if so you could be right. These are kernel mode drivers specific to each kernel---as it sounds like you know. What you tried to do seems pretty clever, but that might have been for a different Ubuntu kernel--anyway it is a can of worms I don't want to open. I would suggest first that you try Three-Headed Dog, which has a different kernel and therefore a different set of drivers. A second thing to try might be Lupu Plus which has some tweaks to the infrastructure that include some to alsa by rerwin so that might make a difference.
3HD http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=70736
Lupu + http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=622054#622054
majorfoo
PostPosted: Sat 28 Apr 2012, 15:34    Post subject:

Full install of lupu-libre-528-005-2 to ext4 partition.

Everything I have tried works OTB.

One thought - add entry in /usr/local/bin for
defaultdatabase and defaultformula
This would be helpful to those who want to add these to wbar or place entry on desktop.

I really like libreoffice suite. On remaster I have deleted all reference to abiword and gnumeric.
otropogo
PostPosted: Sat 28 Apr 2012, 13:02    Post subject: continuing ntfs reliability problems on USB port

Have just booted my Toshiba laptop with Lupu 5.2.8 (02 patch) and the USB3.0 driver pet.

As reported previously. The ntfs USB external drive mounted read-only on the first several attempts at access (as always, the internal ntfs drives mounted normally without such issues).

However, when I experimented by unmounting the external drive and moving it to the second port, it mounted read-write, and I was able to copy a 2.2GB iso file to it without evidence of problems.

On reboot, I was unable to repeat this feat. I was also unable to add a second USB3.0 device (card reader with FAT SD card). Pmount failed to see it. And after only a few remounts, the external drive on the USB3.0 port would no longer appear in pmount at all.

After several failed attempts to remount the drive on the USB3.0 port, I moved it to the USB2.0 port, where it mounted read-write on the first try (which is NOT always the case).

I also had a very strange experience with Pmount and the Toshiba's internal SD/MMC/XD reader.

When I inserted a 4GB HCSD card into this slot, lupu mounted it automatically and displayed an icon "mmcblk1p1"on the desktop for it. I had no trouble writing to it either . However, repeated attempts to show it in pmount failed.
playdayz
PostPosted: Sat 28 Apr 2012, 12:16    Post subject:

LupuPlusLibre 5.2.8.005-2

http://diddywahdiddy.net/Puppy500/lupupluslibre-528.005-2.iso
4f581325d497077be811f88800aeff3a

This has the adjustment to java that was omitted in the earlier version. Nothing else has changed--if you have the earlier version you can achieve the same effect by installing shinobar's pet http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=623442#623442

If you are using Lupu Libre or 3HD Libre you can add java with shinobar's sfs or with the pet I made from it.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=623455#623455
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?search_id=1062230108&t=61287
The java pet is also in the Lupu Repo of PPM. Quickpet -> More Pets -> Update Lupu PPM
rerwin
PostPosted: Sat 28 Apr 2012, 10:05    Post subject: Re: shutdown delay

Comparing lupu528-005 to wary 5.3, I see that lupu does not contain the recent (2/20/2012) fix for network share unmounting. However, lupuplus does have that fix. For the non-plus lupus, please install patch-8 on page 105:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=620542#620542
because that also contains the fix.
Richard
drblock2
PostPosted: Sat 28 Apr 2012, 08:14    Post subject:
Subject description: Shutdown delay

Lucid Puppy 5.2.8-005 has a serious shutdown delay problem on my AMD Athlon 2400 (single processor), frugal installation. Fortunately, I was able to track down the source of the problem.

With three external drives attached (residing on two different machines), shut down took 2 minutes 40 seconds! After manually unmounting the remote drives with Pnethood, shutdown took 12 seconds.

Of course, Pnethood takes a few seconds to rescan the network unless you leave it running in the background, but, if you have this problem, it will still save considerable time.

Alternatively, you can write a little shell script to unmount your drives, simply
Code:
#!/bin/sh

umount <local mount point>
umount <local mount point>
umount <local mount point>


You will have to close all programs using the remote drive first.

I have no idea whether this problem is related to the other shutdown problems discussed earlier in the forum. In any case, it does not occur in Wary 5.3 or Slack 5.3.2.7, which shut down normally on my machine. I seem to remember a similar delay with Puppy 4.3.1, but I never did find a solution back then.
Sage
PostPosted: Sat 28 Apr 2012, 02:47    Post subject:

PD, shino,rerwin,mick:
I report this today on Saluki thread. Perhaps it will help you (even if it proves spurious in the event):
"Good news/bad news.
I have a FULL of v20 upgraded to 21 on one HD that reliably (so far!) shows the shutdown failure/looping back to desktop every time. It also retains this weird behaviour when transferred to newer and older boards, ie it is HW independent.
If one of the respected gurus would care to give me an exact and detailed recipe, I'd be happy to extract and forward files they consider relevant. Hopefully this can help squash this troublesome bug once and for all. I'd prefer to do this ASAP as I will be formatting this drive soon."
rerwin
PostPosted: Sat 28 Apr 2012, 01:04    Post subject: Re: Test 3 of your recent PUPs for JAVA includion

shinobar wrote:
It would be smart if the dir2sfs script does so. Or, have someone already made it?
In that case, the solution could be much simpler: Copy the code from whatever creates the .files file directly into dir2sfs, to make that file as part of the SFS process.
Richard
shinobar
PostPosted: Sat 28 Apr 2012, 00:20    Post subject: Re: Test 3 of your recent PUPs for JAVA includion

rerwin wrote:
we might make it a standard procedure to include the /root/.packages/(SFS name).files file in the SFS file itself.

Nice Razz Thank you for the information.
It would be smart if the dir2sfs script does so. Or, have someone already made it?
rerwin
PostPosted: Fri 27 Apr 2012, 23:19    Post subject: Re: Test 3 of your recent PUPs for JAVA includion

shinobar wrote:
I have reviewed the LupuPlusLibre-528.005-1.iso. There missing java environment stuff under /etc. This occurs when you load SFS and remaster. The remasterpup2 includes the files under /etc and /root which is installed by PET, but NOT from SFS. The encounter is to convert SFS to PET and install the PET, then remaster.
To make things easier for the user doing the remastering, we might make it a standard procedure to include the /root/.packages/(SFS name).files file in the SFS file itself. Then remasterpup2 will use it. Maybe it would be as simple as making the PET first, installing the PET, copying the /root/.packages/(SFS name).files file into /root/.packages of the directory defining the SFS, then making the SFS file with the .files file included The actual .pet could then be uninstalled and .pet file discarded.
Richard
playdayz
PostPosted: Fri 27 Apr 2012, 21:34    Post subject:

JRE 1.6.31-1

A pet of shinobar's java sfs, added to PPM. ftp://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/pet_packages-lucid/jre-1.6.31-1.pet

---------------------------------------------------------------------------

Firefox-12-Lucid ftp://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/pet-packages-lucid/Firefox-12-Lucid.pet

Quickpet -> More Pets -> Update Lupu PPM
vtpup
PostPosted: Fri 27 Apr 2012, 20:43    Post subject:

playdayz wrote:


Quote:
I believe I (and others with Intel Sandybridge 6 Series /c200 chips) could get sound in Lupu 5.2.8 if

# cat /proc/asound/version
Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.24.

Where is that please vtpup? Have you tested that?


I've come pretty close playdayz. Here's a record of what I've tried so far:

This whole troubleshooting procedure:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1iTlJ8BfqXUjaHO__TEdlkvuqB1WLOkGaudngc5SFLMI/edit?pli=1#bookmark=id.ox3shjww9fwf

Highlights from that:

Code:
sh-4.1# aplay -l
aplay: device_list:240: no soundcards found...

sh-4.1# echo "Sound cards recognized by the system:"; lspci -nn | grep --color=none '\[04[80][13]\]'; echo "Sound cards recognized by ALSA:"; lspci -nn | grep '\[04[80][13]\]' | while read line; do lspci -nnk | grep -A 3 '\[04[80][13]\]' | grep -e 'Kernel modules: ..*' -e '\[04[80][13]\]' | grep --color=none -F "$line"; done; echo "Sound cards recognized by ALSA, and activated:"; lspci -nn | grep '\[04[80][13]\]' | while read line; do lspci -nnk | grep -A 3 '\[04[80][13]\]' | grep -e 'Kernel drivers in use: ..*' -e '\[04[80][13]\]' | grep --color=none -F "$line"; done

Sound cards recognized by the system:
00:1b.0 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller [8086:1c20] (rev 05)
Sound cards recognized by ALSA:
00:1b.0 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller [8086:1c20] (rev 05)
Sound cards recognized by ALSA, and activated:
00:1b.0 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller [8086:1c20] (rev 05)

sh-4.1# aplay -l
aplay: device_list:240: no soundcards found...


That pretty much showed that it was a driver problem, So then I tried checking the version of asound in 3 distros where my soundcard works, results here:

Lupu 528 -v5 sound does not work:
Code:
sh-4.1# cat /proc/asound/version
Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.21.


Racy 53 sound does work:
Code:
# cat /proc/asound/version
Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.24.


Sulu sound does work:
Code:
sh-4.1# cat /proc/asound/version
Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.24.


UPUP Precise sound does work:
Code:
# cat /proc/asound/version
Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.24.


Okay so then I went here for a script to upgrade asound drivers:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1681577

And that went well up until compile time when the script complained that I didn't have complete kernel headers (even though I'd installed Devx, and kernel headers sfs.

So I got stuck there.

what do you think?
playdayz
PostPosted: Fri 27 Apr 2012, 20:10    Post subject: Re: Test 3 of your recent PUPs for JAVA includion

Thank you shinobar for the explanation. I see what happened. I will make a new Lupu Plus Libre in a day or two.

shinobar wrote:
gcmartin wrote:
sh-4.1# java
sh: java: command not found

I have reviewed the LupuPlusLibre-528.005-1.iso. There missing java environment stuff under /etc. This occurs when you load SFS and remaster. The remasterpup2 includes the files under /etc and /root which is installed by PET, but NOT from SFS. The encounter is to convert SFS to PET and install the PET and then remaster.
shinobar
PostPosted: Fri 27 Apr 2012, 20:07    Post subject: Re: Test 3 of your recent PUPs for JAVA includion

gcmartin wrote:
sh-4.1# java
sh: java: command not found

I have reviewed the LupuPlusLibre-528.005-1.iso. There missing java environment stuff under /etc. This occurs when you load SFS and remaster. The remasterpup2 includes the files under /etc and /root which is installed by PET, but NOT from SFS. The encounter is to convert SFS to PET and install the PET, then remaster.

Attached the pet contains the java environment setting stuff under /etc. You need to reboot PC after installing the PET. Or, go down to the console, type 'exit', then 'xwin' to refresh the environment.

@jemimah, You need not convert the whole SFS to PET if you load the SFS plus install the PET attached.
EDIT: but still be better to convert the whole SFS because it leaves the record in the woof-installed-packages and under the builtin_files.
playdayz
PostPosted: Fri 27 Apr 2012, 20:04    Post subject:

Quote:
This is what I get trying to check for JAVA in the system when I booted ALL 3 "puppy" ISO versions you have recently made available to the community. MaybeI am missing some obvious step. If I have, please direct me appropriately.

I booted the ISO via Live media and via Netboots. Each time after FirstRUN, I open a terminal and get the following:
Code:
sh-4.1# java
sh: java: command not found
sh-4.1#

Yes, the java executable is not in the path. I will insert it next time when I know if it is better to put a shell file in /usr/bin or add /usr/java... to the path. I was interested only in Libre Office and the browsers--I am unaware of requests to run particular java programs so I didn't think of it. Thanks.
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