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Brown Mouse
PostPosted: Sun 28 Aug 2011, 16:25    Post subject:

playdayz wrote:
Here is the result of the Mplayer experiments. There was something wrong with all of them so far, except this one!

Mplayer 34026-002
http://diddywahdiddy.net/Puppy500/mp34026-002.pet

It contains the very latest versions of the ffmpeg libraries (that is, even more recent then 0.8.2) It is compiled for i686. It will determine your cpu at runtime and use the appropriate media enhancements (mmx, sse3, 3dnow, etc.). It plays all the videos I usually test, and they look good. it also plays audio and CD.

It will play dvd's somewhat well. However, I still recommend that if you want to play DVD's you use the included XineDVD. I find it frustrating that no one else seems to be able to make a DVD player that looks and operates like the DVD players people are used to. But if you want to use gnome-mplayer to play dvd's you should View -> Playlist in gnome-mplayer--otherwise the first screen is black (who knows).

FYI, The version of the ffmpeg libraries in Lucid 5.2.8 is 0.6.2, but I am not sure how much if any this new mplayer improves video quality. I would like to hear. The 0.6.2 we use is the special build by Medibuntu and I don't see any real problems with it--everything plays reasonably well. 0.8.2 is not so far in advance of what we have, because 0.7.3 has most of the improvements of the 0.8 series but with compatibility with the 0.6 series. And the 0.7 and 0.8 were released the same day.

Thanks to 01micko for his help with the configure options.

After some more testing, I will post it on LupuNews.


Hi Playdayz
I'm not having much luck today.I installed the Mplayer 34026-002.pet and get a fatal error of 'skin default not found'.
Tried a reboot to no avail.

ETP

Thanks.I'll give your Chromium instructions a try.
ETP
PostPosted: Sun 28 Aug 2011, 16:09    Post subject: Chromium 15 "pinwheel of death"-PoD

playdayz/Brown Mouse
Quote:
Quote:
I've just seen a recurrence of the dreaded 'pinwheel of death' when opening version Chromium 15.0.860.0.(since including your fix by adding the libgconf file).
Nothing has been changed on my setup except for adding 'Mplayer with ffmpeg 0.8.2' and the latest 'Flashpalyer.pet'.

I am out of ideas Brown mouse. Several times it has happened to me, but each time it was because I had either removed or used a version that did not have the libgconf 3.1.6. Try reinstalling it??? I will investigate also.


I am currently running the same pets as listed by Brown Mouse but have not so far experienced the PoD.
Having said that, I did so with Chromium 12, 13 & 14 and on each occasion regressed to Chromium 10. I did find however that simply uninstalling the pet was insufficient and that if I did not manually clear out the Chromium detritus 10 also suffered the PoD. I suggest therefore that you try the following:

Export your favourites to a location of your choice.
Uninstall Chromium 15.
Reboot.
Manually delete the following directories & their contents:
/root/.config/chromium
/usr/lib/chrome-linux
Reboot.
Install Chromium 15.
Re-import your favourites.

Unrelated to the PoD issue, a smidgen of extra speed (as used in Iron) can be obtained with the following settings.
majorfoo
PostPosted: Sun 28 Aug 2011, 15:44    Post subject:

playdayz wrote:
majorfoo,

No one said anything but I found out that the version of Audacious 3.0 will not play .mpc (musepack) files. A small codec but I have some. Further investigation was that there was a problem between Audacious and the version of ffmpeg libraries we have (we have 0.6.2, but Audacious 3 want late 0.7.x or 0.8.) So for now I recommend the 2.5.4 version.

I would like to see version 3+ work also.

ftp://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/pet-packages-lucid/audacious-2.5.4.pet


I am using Audacious 3.0 pet in Lucid 525, 528 and 529 with no problems. I am only playing commercial cd's, wav files and mp3 files and they all play great.

Lookikng forward to version 3+ when all the kinks are worked out.

Thanks for quick response and thanks again for all your dedication and hard work

majorfoo
playdayz
PostPosted: Sun 28 Aug 2011, 15:30    Post subject:

majorfoo,

No one said anything but I found out that the version of Audacious 3.0 will not play .mpc (musepack) files. A small codec but I have some. Further investigation was that there was a problem between Audacious and the version of ffmpeg libraries we have (we have 0.6.2, but Audacious 3 want late 0.7.x or 0.8.) So for now I recommend the 2.5.4 version.

I would like to see version 3+ work also.

ftp://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/pet-packages-lucid/audacious-2.5.4.pet
majorfoo
PostPosted: Sun 28 Aug 2011, 15:18    Post subject:

Playdayz,
I believe you recently compiled Audacious 3.0 pet for lucid packages

Billto mentioned on another thread that 3.1 is out and asked queston

"Have you tried audacious 3.0.1? It's not too large and has some nice plugins like extra stereo."

When you have time, can you compile 3.1 and add to lucid packages

tnanks

majorfoo
playdayz
PostPosted: Sun 28 Aug 2011, 14:47    Post subject:

Quote:
I've just seen a recurrence of the dreaded 'pinwheel of death' when opening version Chromium 15.0.860.0.(since including your fix by adding the libgconf file).
Nothing has been changed on my setup except for adding 'Mplayer with ffmpeg 0.8.2' and the latest 'Flashpalyer.pet'.

I am out of ideas Brown mouse. Several times it has happened to me, but each time it was because I had either removed or used a version that did not have the libgconf 3.1.6. Try reinstalling it??? I will investigate also.
playdayz
PostPosted: Sun 28 Aug 2011, 14:34    Post subject:

Here is the result of the Mplayer experiments. There was something wrong with all of them so far, except this one!

Mplayer 34026-002
http://diddywahdiddy.net/Puppy500/mp34026-002.pet

It contains the very latest versions of the ffmpeg libraries (that is, even more recent then 0.8.2) It is compiled for i686. It will determine your cpu at runtime and use the appropriate media enhancements (mmx, sse3, 3dnow, etc.). It plays all the videos I usually test, and they look good. it also plays audio and CD.

It will play dvd's somewhat well. However, I still recommend that if you want to play DVD's you use the included XineDVD. I find it frustrating that no one else seems to be able to make a DVD player that looks and operates like the DVD players people are used to. But if you want to use gnome-mplayer to play dvd's you should View -> Playlist in gnome-mplayer--otherwise the first screen is black (who knows).

FYI, The version of the ffmpeg libraries in Lucid 5.2.8 is 0.6.2, but I am not sure how much if any this new mplayer improves video quality. I would like to hear. The 0.6.2 we use is the special build by Medibuntu and I don't see any real problems with it--everything plays reasonably well. 0.8.2 is not so far in advance of what we have, because 0.7.3 has most of the improvements of the 0.8 series but with compatibility with the 0.6 series. And the 0.7 and 0.8 were released the same day.

Thanks to 01micko for his help with the configure options.

After some more testing, I will post it on LupuNews.

I should say that I test with gnome-mplayer rather than at the command line.
roadkill13
PostPosted: Sun 28 Aug 2011, 13:45    Post subject:

Quote:
How I can increase my file "lupusave" HELP plss


In the menu category "Utility" you will find an item "Resize Personal Storage File". Please select this entry and a dialogue will appear prompting you to select a size by which the personal save file will be increased.

Note: You must reboot to complete this process.

For some reason I did not see the post immediately above this one. Oh well...
Jim1911
PostPosted: Sun 28 Aug 2011, 13:40    Post subject:

@makaj

Open Control, select Drive, Resize Puppy File or select Menu, Utility, Resize personal storage file.
makaj
PostPosted: Sun 28 Aug 2011, 13:22    Post subject: Lupusave file

How I can increase my file "lupusave" HELP plss
Brown Mouse
PostPosted: Sun 28 Aug 2011, 06:02    Post subject:

Playdayz

I've just seen a recurrence of the dreaded 'pinwheel of death' when opening version Chromium 15.0.860.0.(since including your fix by adding the libgconf file).
Nothing has been changed on my setup except for adding 'Mplayer with ffmpeg 0.8.2' and the latest 'Flashpalyer.pet'.
charbaby66
PostPosted: Sun 28 Aug 2011, 05:28    Post subject: I have such a beautiful well behaved puppy
Subject description: thanks playdayz et al

just want to say you outdid yourself, and it is so appreciated!!

528 is my fav official, i do like a few of the other puplets but
this is a keeper!! it is a work of art. Looking forward to Slacko,
but since 5.1 I have fallen in love with lupu, and likely will use
as my primary forever with the LTS Smile

Only issue I had was that she runs hot even with scaling (tried both
default and M based) [IBM T41 1G Radeon 7500 60GB laptop] especially running wireless, still feverish when using wired, Adding nosmp helps
but all other lucid pups tried (lots!!!) ran much cooler.29-33 (rare to hit
60+ even with video and heavy loads) now mid 70s if streaming, 52-60
if not. Using latest Flash pet and Iron 13 (yes installed libs 1st) is a bit better than FF.

With the pretty boot splash screen and multiboot I added via
the excellent windows installer pet here: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=61404 (I used the XP exe)
I have everything I ever wanted in a puppy, and I used to be a
cat person LOL

LOL I am going to try to see if it will run on my Toshiba Satellite 490CDT 64mb Ram 4G hd

I can usually get Puppy to run on it (last tried 5.11) but all versions back I
have tried blank to a white screen at shutdown due to the video chip -
an S3 Virge 2M POS with no bugfix...I just hit enter blindly to reboot, and enjoy playing with this "seeing eye puppy" just because I can! Someday I hope to find a stick of ram for her, will also try tuxxx's 2.14 updated

Love seeing :dead computers still up and woof-woof! But I digress...

Thanks again for giving us this amazing puppy playdayz !! Smile
playdayz
PostPosted: Sat 27 Aug 2011, 20:24    Post subject:

Quote:
P.S. Just one thing - how do you access the Ubuntu repositories with it?

Open Puppy Package Manager, then hit the Configure Package Manger button and tick the repos you want.
Colonel Panic
PostPosted: Sat 27 Aug 2011, 18:35    Post subject:

I think this is my next Puppy, I'll give it a go soon.

Best wishes and thanks for all your hard work,

CP .

P.S. Just one thing - how do you access the Ubuntu repositories with it?
playdayz
PostPosted: Sat 27 Aug 2011, 15:03    Post subject:

Quote:
Would compiling mplayer for an up to date processor rather than i386 be likely to improve things? Or is the overhead a kernel dependent effect?

LateAdopter, IMHO, that would likely help--to compile for the "correct" processor. This is an ongoing experiment, but it is pretty difficult and complicated so far Wink This first result (mplayer with ffmpgeg 0.8.2--static) was mainly built using the defaults--because there are an enormous number of options Wink Fortunately many of the options are "autodetect." However as the compilation flashed by on the screen I noticed mcpu=native and march=native. Anyway, I am wondering if that built for my phenom 9850--the way I understand those options (and use them in compiling Firefox) that is what it would do. If you had a different cpu that could be the cause of problems. I am going to investigate further, but not in a hurry. Ultimately it might even be possible to create a script to compile for one's own cpu.
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